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(05-06-2025, 03:35 PM)_WOLF_ Wrote: 2.1 - You must provide sufficient roleplay before attacking another player, and give them enough time to react. This means at least two messages and 10 seconds delay before attacking.
Note: Every form of RP is acceptable.
As I understand it, this rule has not been violated. You punished a person in the absence of a violation, no matter what you say about roleplaying and the viability of the server.
Mort was not sanctioned for violating rule 2.1. He was sanctioned for violating rule 1.1, primarily, at least in my opinion:
(02-04-2007, 02:31 PM)Igiss Wrote: 1.1 - Discovery is an English-language roleplaying server. Communication in-game and in the roleplaying areas of the forums must be in-character and appropriate for Discovery Freelancer's setting. Metagaming and powergaming are strictly forbidden.
Messages in chat to notify a player that you're about to attack them are, by definition, "communication in-game". As stated in that rule, communication in-game has to be in-character. It's fairly easy to argue that, in addition, making references to other players' English skills -- specifically yours -- in the roleplay environment is metagaming, another aspect of that very same rule.
(05-06-2025, 03:35 PM)_WOLF_ Wrote: This server lives thanks to players like Sergei (Mort). I feel that you can not get through to you, otherwise it would have turned out, justifying the unfair ban, you would have admitted your mistake. In your time you were reprimanded and you accepted and drew conclusions. So why was Sergei deprived of such a chance? Or does he not have the right to do so? Yes, I don't know the language, and may have violated server rules many times. And, when it was explained to me I tried not to allow it from now on, unless in the rush of battle or accidentally. If this server prioritizes the subjective opinion of the administration, just say so -- it's our decision, and I don't care what the majority of players think.
I agree with you. I openly questioned the staff team's (and my own) decision in my reply to Mort's sanction thread:
(05-06-2025, 02:54 PM)Haste Wrote: Now, a perfectly valid question to ask in response to the above quote is, of course, to ask why Mort wasn't warned, just like I was. To be quite honest, I don't have a good answer to that right now.
As with every sanction, especially those that give rise to a strong community response like Mort's, the staff team has been discussing Mort's sanction and will continue to do so. We are all human beings, and sometimes we act on instinct and sometimes we make mistakes. It's very possible that speaking to Mort in private and asking him to "knock it off" the same way I was asked to "do better" back in the day would have worked better than this ban in achieving our goal of correcting rule-violating behaviour. I don't really know. You likely know him much better than I, so perhaps I misjudged him.
(05-06-2025, 03:37 PM)Hitman-76 Wrote: What if Mort dropped /1 /2 and killed Haste or a hasteric buddy buddy?
If we banned players for blowing me up there'd be nobody left on the server.