Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4

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. .Hmm, I have a problem here: Code: The following ships have been reclassified as frigates and are thus not subject to transport and liner class protection: Pelican, Gull, Grouse, Bumblebee, Albatross, Mammoth, BWAT, Percheron, Longhorn, Bulwark. The following ships are clearly not transports but don’t exactly have a class definition: Amaterasu Rationale: The listed ships are capable of engaging in combat to a degree that is not consistent with larger transports. Future plans for transport rebalancing will aim to remove rules-based protection for game mechanics based capabilities in the style of the newer Longhorn and Bulwark class haulers. So you're basing this ruling on PVP and not roleplay? Why not classify ships as being used offensively or not? I don't understand this. Are we expected to understand this particular ruling in a way where under roleplay circumstances we're exempt from this rule? Fly an unarmed Longhorn with 3,600 Gold Get pirated I tell Pirate no They initiate combat They deshield me and do some damage I combat dock I'd hate to get one of my members sanctioned under Starfliers if they immediately continue a trade run after combat docking in a Longhorn. Because the 1 hour death would apply in this circumstance. Under roleplay, the ship was not used offensively, rather just evasively (as much as one can in a Longhorn) to survive until combat dock. Though the ship, even if we do ignore weapons, is likely defined as a Frigate in this proposed ruleset due to it's boosted HP over the Serenity. There should be a line stating that if you have one offensive weapon mounted, you are considered a combat ship. Unarmed = not a combat ship. A consideration there must be at least addressed. . .

I'd also ask for staff to respond to that. Starfliers cannot arm their ships per ID line. Does that still mean that our transport lose this protection purely because they're below a certain amount of cargo? Adding "armed vessels" somewhere in the rules would be nice, otherwise these ships are literally just cannonfodder.