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Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4
Offline Sombs
06-07-2025, 10:45 AM, (This post was last modified: 06-07-2025, 10:46 AM by Sombs.)
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(06-07-2025, 10:04 AM)TheKusari Wrote: I'll have to stop you right there.

You might want to re-read what I wrote.



In general, we've gotten to a point where people merely look at the rules and forget for what reason these rules exist.

This is a roleplay server - this means, the moment a ship undocks from a station, it becomes a viable target. Regardless of ship class, loadout, ID, IFF, there is always someone who can kill you and has a legitimate motivation to do so. The rules the greens have established are in place to regulate people and prevent them from just saying "Well, my character's RP is that he hates everyone and wants to kill them, that's it". Simply because there would be no fun to log into the game as regular person that doesn't want to do that. We want to have people log into the game, and prevent people from going on killing sprees for illegitimate motivations.

Now, to some people, this is really just a game. They don't care too much about the roleplay aspect, or actually don't see the issue with "Well, my character's RP is that he hates everyone and wants to kill them, that's it" as character motivation. In terms of immersion, killling someone at random or for the pettiest reasons is not something a reasonable to do. Simply because nobody wants to have that done to themselves, either. Ask yourself, how many times did you leave your house and killed someone iRL? Ideally, zero times. How many times did you feel the honest desire to get killed by someone for no or stupid reasons? Ideally, zero times.

Again, some people obviously don't think that way in this simulated roleplay environment, because there is no harm to them, no consequences for unreasonable behavior. It is a game. As such, these rules have to be made, and upheld. We have people who just want to play their everyday life in Discovery, and they should be able to do it.

However, space is dangerous. Ideally, we have a balance where all ships have a considerable survivability in regular situations. Obviously, we don't. Whales have no weapons, Barges are giant sitting ducks, a single tiny puny fighter can CD and pin down a battleship for ages, some people pirate in bombers or destroyers that can take out the pirated ship in a blink. Space is dangerous - so any reasonable person would take measures to not get killed that easily.

People who choose to fly a Barge make an active decision to do so. People who choose to fly a Whale make an active decision to do so. People who don't buy bots and bats make the active decision to do so. The Starfliers also actively made the decision to not use weapons. There is absolutely zero reason to protect people who choose to make a few millions credits more per hour over the choice of flying a ship that has an actual chance at surviving a hostile encounter. And yes, that extends to people who have gotten used to their protections to use big, fragile ships to maintain their precious PoBs alone on their own instead of hiring others or asking friends to help. The escort business for random freelancers and bounty hunters has completely died down because haulers don't even think about hiring protection and despite there being enough haulers in the game at any time, aforementioned freelancers and bounty hunters know they will most likely just get ignored. Sitting at a traffic zone for hours only to get ignored while haulers and PoB owners make millions and yell the loudest in the rare instances where they got pirated or shot down could not be more of a painfully obvious symptom of a broken rule system paired with broken balance.


The rules should provide fairness and provide a level of reasonable immersion. Instead, they are protecting people who barely manage to write more than "hi" in lowercase, make millions of credits per hour and use ChatGPT in the rare case they notice the comm they got that makes demands. Fly a fragile ship? Your own fault. You are taking a risk you need to think about. We have heavily armored transports, incredibly capable freighters, plenty of people that are almost always available on Discord waiting for literally anything to happen worth logging, and that includes escort pilots, scouts and haulers. There are people who sit on billions of credits, cry at the loss of a few millions but have nothing they want to spend credits on. And most people play this game for years, some for decades, and they all should know better.




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Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 05-21-2025, 06:13 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Weapon - 05-21-2025, 06:47 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Leo - 05-21-2025, 07:04 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Weapon - 05-21-2025, 07:06 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Locksmith - 05-21-2025, 06:56 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by HonourWolf - 05-21-2025, 07:58 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 05-21-2025, 08:03 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by HonourWolf - 05-21-2025, 08:06 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Kauket - 05-21-2025, 08:04 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 05-21-2025, 08:12 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 05-21-2025, 08:10 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Weapon - 05-21-2025, 08:38 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 05-21-2025, 08:56 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Reeves - 05-21-2025, 09:13 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Weapon - 05-21-2025, 09:16 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by -Rax- - 05-21-2025, 09:45 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Eternal.Journey - 05-21-2025, 09:55 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 05-21-2025, 10:22 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Chronicron - 05-21-2025, 10:31 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Lemon - 05-21-2025, 10:40 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Eternal.Journey - 05-21-2025, 10:52 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by TheSauron - 05-21-2025, 10:57 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by St.Denis - 05-21-2025, 11:58 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by NBK - 05-21-2025, 12:02 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by JadeTornado - 05-21-2025, 01:02 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Haste - 05-21-2025, 01:12 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Luke. - 05-21-2025, 02:40 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Kayla Trevarthian - 05-21-2025, 02:48 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Chxlls - 05-21-2025, 03:09 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Sand-Viper - 05-21-2025, 03:12 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Lonewolf87 - 05-21-2025, 03:17 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Luke. - 05-21-2025, 03:31 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Eternal.Journey - 05-21-2025, 05:10 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 05-21-2025, 10:05 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Fab - 05-21-2025, 11:18 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Leo - 05-22-2025, 12:58 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Sand-Viper - 05-22-2025, 01:09 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Frostpfote - 05-22-2025, 08:39 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by R.P.Curator - 05-22-2025, 03:01 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Lord Caedus - 05-22-2025, 03:17 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Luke. - 05-22-2025, 03:21 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by TheSauron - 05-22-2025, 04:24 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Petitioner - 05-22-2025, 05:08 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 05-22-2025, 07:46 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Emperor Tekagi - 05-22-2025, 07:55 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 05-22-2025, 08:07 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Lord Helmchen - 05-23-2025, 01:37 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Lord Caedus - 05-22-2025, 08:01 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Lusitano - 05-22-2025, 08:29 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by The_Godslayer - 05-22-2025, 08:48 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Sand-Viper - 05-22-2025, 10:24 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by The_Godslayer - 05-22-2025, 11:59 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Leo - 05-23-2025, 12:26 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Lemon - 05-23-2025, 07:27 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Leo - 05-23-2025, 08:33 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Lemon - 05-23-2025, 09:02 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Shoebill - 05-23-2025, 03:16 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by LuckyOne - 05-23-2025, 06:01 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Sand-Viper - 05-23-2025, 03:03 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by TheKusari - 05-24-2025, 12:17 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by TheSauron - 05-24-2025, 01:31 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Reeves - 05-24-2025, 01:48 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 05-26-2025, 02:16 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Reeves - 05-26-2025, 04:05 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Wesker - 05-26-2025, 09:41 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by rwx - 05-26-2025, 10:42 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Reeves - 05-27-2025, 08:11 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by rwx - 05-27-2025, 07:51 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Frostpfote - 05-26-2025, 04:34 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Sombs - 05-26-2025, 06:23 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 06-07-2025, 04:56 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by TheKusari - 06-07-2025, 10:04 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Sombs - 06-07-2025, 10:45 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Soban - 06-07-2025, 10:42 AM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by EisenSeele - 06-07-2025, 07:25 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by TheKusari - 06-07-2025, 01:05 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by TheSauron - 06-07-2025, 07:44 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Erremnart - 06-07-2025, 07:50 PM
RE: Rules Change Discussion 1.1, 2.1, 2.2, 2.4 - by Frostpfote - 06-07-2025, 09:56 PM

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