The Hunter Directive

[worldstrider]

Ok--my only problem is the "Lets be Junkers when we come up with a new Sirius scourge".

This is diluting to Junker role play and forces us to accommodate a group "as our own" when it has nothing to do with Junkers.

The Harvester and Junker interaction was a mutually reached rp that evolved naturally and made a lot of sense logically.

But this (for Junkers) is no different than if someone created a psychotic-homicidal offshoot of Corsairs or Outcasts or Zoners and then said, "We're going to use Junker reps and bases."

Go Freelancer, pirate or Zoner. I know freelancer restricts your options as does pirate. Also consider a terrorist ID but with faction set direections for it (you don't have to be a "pure" terrorist towards all groups.)

Zoners are similar to Junkers but they are a group of people with mutual interests and concerns. Junkers are "socially ethnic" and bound by a tradition and society that binds them together as family and trusted friends.

I know Zoners might be viewed that way but Zoners are a variety of people disaffected by Sirius society, withdrawing from it as a whole and isolating themselves for mutual protection.

The Harvesters would be shock and awe to "everyday Junkers". They might get used to them and work with them once they have proven predictable but it would ne4ver be a completely natural fit. No Junker would ever look at Harvesters and say, "They are Junkers." the Harvesters are present at Junker bases because an in-game relationship developed and a Junker group agreed to allow Harvesters to be present (like we could have stopped them anyway). but Harvesters didn't move in uninvited--they essentially "signed a treaty" and accepted obligations and responsibilities to Junkers as a result. Each side gains an advantage. the Harvesters were powerful machines who could be approached with the logic of cooperation when their own and junker wishes conflicted. They did not have an imperative to adapt and destroy all non-machine life. To make Junkers accept this status would be like forcing them to support Hitler in WWII..or forcing "Doctor Who" to cooperate with "Daleks".

To start just arbitrarily labeling new groups as Junkers because it is convenient is wrong.

I was blasted for the perception I might be making Junkers seem "non-vanilla" and this just stretches it way out of shape.

If actual Junkers opposed this, they would refuse to let them dock and would resist them. Your suggestion makes Junker bases as much your group's as they are the Junkers. Suddenly a "Junker" base isn't that anymore--its a shared faction location. That's not what they are. Yanagi, Bornholm, Kruzberg, Beaumont, Rochester and Trafalgar are not just stations with Junkers on them--they are Junker stations.

P.S. The group sounds fun and no problem--I'm all for AI and eventually a Machine ID. But twist the Zoner ID, not the Junker one if you have to twist one.

Something else to consider here is a space based faction. One that doesn't dock ships but barters for goods that are brought and sold to them--that is something the Junkers might do. Gammu is obviously available for basic equipping and ships as it is essentially "Harvester Homeworld".

The other alternative is that your group has "assimilated" Primus--having found the monkeys useful servants who aren't an evolving threat, That gives you access to the Crow, Virage, Battlestar, Huntress, Nomad light Fighter and the Kushan Very Heavy Fighter as well as a ton of advanced weapons.

Just some ideas as alternatives.

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