(08-11-2025, 02:46 PM)New Dawn Movement Wrote: The New Dawn, unlike many human factions, believes that the Nomads have a similar right to life and self-determination as humans do, and do not engage them on sight. However, the fact remains that most nomads engage in indiscriminate violence against humanity. The official stance of the New Dawn is to live and let live--do not engage Nomads unless they attack first, and exercise due caution around them.
How does ND reconcile their pursuit of an individual's rights and freedoms with neutrality towards a hivemind alien species that regularly enslaves human beings for use as forced labour and disposable troops? Last I checked House corps don't grind spent slaves down into thermal paste for their combat drones, yet somehow you consider them more antithetical to your movement's ideology. What gives?
They're listed as neutral, leaning toward unfriendly, because the movement as a whole doesn't know a lot about them, and isn't willing to label them as enemies when they have, historically, been less combative to the New Dawn than many human factions. The neutral attitude is meant to reflect that they're cautious about them, but don't want to escalate. The neutral stance is also partly meant to reflect that the New Dawn recognizes that it's difficult to communicate with them, and with a lack of ability to communicate their intentions, feels that it's unethical to engage them indiscriminately.
(08-11-2025, 04:05 PM)Darius Wrote: I don't actually have a whole lot to add besides maybe a small note on reconsidering the description of the Royalists (given the previous HQ was in their 'home' system) and potentially a -0.55 or somesuch with the Nomads instead down the line (as the current description clashes with the stated goals of casting away any one oppressor of the 'common man' -- noble and very just cause, but it doesn't do very well with also maintaining a neutral stance on the Nomads), unless that was intended to be a placeholder for the Vagrants instead?
Welcome back to Discovery, otherwise, Astra, and best of luck with the faction c:
Thank you for the welcome! You make a good point about the reputation, but I think that it still makes more sense for them to "technically" be neutral, to illustrate that there's no active shooting involved.
(08-11-2025, 04:09 PM)Sally Wrote: Because a good chunk of their members are -in a painfully ironic twist- established nomad vagrant pawns? At least that's what I recall from back then, unless something changed, but if it did then yes, Nomads have no business being on neutral or green repsheet given they're by their very existence the material antithesis of individuality and freedom as defined by humans.
There was exactly one infested character in the New Dawn, which was Kimiko Hawkins. Nobody else was ever infected or a pawn in any way.
We'll have to agree to disagree on the "antithesis of individuality and freedom" part. The current diplomacy is based on past roleplay, and is unlikely to change.