Quote:because its considered pvp abuse, people demand that much just to kill them, and can do it over and over again, no one wants to pay that much when all they'll lose is 1 mill in cargo costs, bad RP tbh, but i wouldn't pay that much, and thats where its separates RL from a game, even if it is a RP server. Handing out more money than you earn isnt enjoyable, and not worth paying/playing. Limits need to be set somewhere.
.. This thread isn't about what's deemed "fair" or "unfair", or "right" or "wrong..."
.. It's about piracy according to the rules.
Quote:6.19 Pirates and terrorists have a right to deal as much damage as they see fit before or after demanding money from a trader ship, but killing trader ship before demanding money is not allowed. Attacking traders or demanding cargo is not allowed for cruisers and battleships, unless cruisers and battleship belong to Terrorist ID or Phantom ID owner.
.. It doesn't say anything in that about there being a limit to what you can or cannot demand. Xoria insinuated that there was/is, when there isn't.
.. In many cases, there are just situations where a trader/player just deserves to die. Atleast 50% of all traders are going to attack you personally (as a person/player and not a character) upon being engaged and it's in this scenario when I'll charge them absurd amounts just to "teach" them why it's convenient to be a little nicer/cordial. Alot of these cases really does call for a screenshot/sanction report, but I'd rather implement my own In-Character justice rather than bring the ADMINs every single time a trader starts to cry foul. Besides, it's not like I would do this to any trader, usually just the ones who're constantly breaking rules just to spite you.
If it's against the rules to demand more than a certain amount from a trader, then it needs to be clarified in the rules, but until then I'll continue to use this as a means to slay snotty, bratty players who deserve it when it's called for. You shouldn't be able to be sanctioned for something that isn't covered in the rules.
captainpoo Wrote:You can, however, demand insane amounts of things (for instance, cargo AND credits) just for the purpose of killing him.
Xoria Wrote:No, pirates cannot.
You will find the rotting remains of those who have, littered amongst the sanction threads.
It may not be the easiest thing for a trader to prove in their rule violation report, but some have, and the pirate was sanctioned for it.
Pirates are not terrorists, and those who behave like it suffer for it far more than their victims do.
.. You shouldn't be able to get sanctioned for something that isn't covered in the rules.
I understand the difference between griefing and true, genuine justice (which is the only time I'd resort to such a thing), but unless the victim has been subject to pointless playerkilling/griefing, it shouldn't be against the rules. I've personally paid pirates up to 20 million before just to be able to keep my pilot commodities (which, Bounty Hunters, when you have enough of them, can be worth alot more than 20 million). I'm usually very reasonable as a pirate, I can't even remember the last time I actually charged someone over 750,000 credits (regardless of ship size or cargo) - not all of us are looking to grief anyone, and not all of us should be punished by further restrictions being applied to the pirate IDs. As a pirate I'm usually only looking to cover the cost of my ammo/repairs, and only that - I'd imagine this to be true for many other pirate players aswell.
