I have not ringed a single trader since this rule talk has come up and I have tried to play by the admin edicts.
The only traders that I have stopped are the ones that stop themselves. You cannot pirate some one by a Jumphole with this in effect. The New Berlin JH in Sigma is now a easy passage as it cannot be disrupted and the most powerful stopper of all has been removed.
The fear of destruction. With out this its just like how traders dont RP fear of criusers. There is no threat.
I ask can a pirate not make two request?
1) Halt. (A request if not followed that equals death) Halt is a demand. It is a demand of an action. It is thus because of being a demand legal to blast a trader for not stopping. I'm sorry to come down to diceing them letter of the rules but thats what this post is about. If the rules say you cannot kill a trader with out makeing a demand then, I say that is my demand. Will I get sanctioned for it?
Then I noticed since we are playing by the rules now and with absolutely no consern for the spirit in which they were written. I must say, there is nothing there limiting the number of demands that can be made per encounter.
So, my second demand is as follows.
2) This unit requires 2 million resource credits ( another separate request that equals death if not abided)
Now if the letter has become more important than the spirit I think we should review the PVP rules in reguards to traders.
Are they exempt from PVP? I looked at them and it looks like criusers and battle ships are banned from engageing them in PVP but not gunboat and below. Is there anything that says traders are not held to the PVP conventions?
If not then why are they allowed to bypass the 4 hour rule? That is not in the letter of the rule. Yet we agree on it.
No where is it in the letter of the rule that Battle criusers cannot engage trade ships. It only says criusers and battleships, yet we agree that battle criusers cannot either. Why common sense and a respect for the spirit of the rule.
My point is we have been doing piracy the same for awhile and it seems only now that it is getting a major nasty underhual. I say underhual as this is not a improvement at all.
If we are goping to go dead nuts, conventional morality thinking on these rules then piracy is dead in the water except for the most compliant traders and pure luck. Forget wilderness JH piracy.
Also if we are going to hold up the rules and say "This is what ot says, then a great many other things we agree on as a community will change too."
There is NO exemption written for traders in PVP rules!!!!! As one example.:rtfm:
There fore I'd like to here what the admin say. Is this going to stand or are we going to over hual the way all rules are handled?
Or is it only this rule getting messed up and why? This community and many who have been hear for awhile deserve alittle responce since this is unceremoneouly changeing manys Rp and cause some to drop out. Look at the flood. This chat is mentioned. Pirates are quiting. Is that what you want?
Why fix the Niobium/ diamond run if the traders have nothing to fear anyway? SO, it looks like this thread was posted but is there a reason it came up all of a sudden and by an admin no less?
Were you robbed? Is believeable RP sanctionable now? Lets drop the conventional morality of reading the letter of the rule and develope on to post conventional morality. People who are able to define right and wrong with out it being written down and further more being able to decide on each case based on a morale compass and not a manuel as the governeing factor.
If you dont know there are three stages of morality.
Pre conventional = only wrong if I get caught. Everyone starts here, most grow out of it by age 9 or 10. If they dont the smart ones become millionaries and the dumb ones become prisoners.
Conventional = I know its wrong the rules say so. This is where about 60% of the world gets stuck, but they make good workers and followers. These people require functions and instatutioons to tell them what is right and wrong. In essence if its legal its not wrong. These people become the middle class worker bees.
Post conventional = Think Galileo. Knowing whats right and wrong independently of the writen law or social moraes. Galileo was right but broke the law being right. As did Martin Luther King and, Malcom X in the end before being shot. These folk while right are persecuted or killed.
Since this is a gameing community can we dare to be post conventional here? Can we use common sense, or is this to protect an injured ego? I just think this thread smacks of an alternate agenda as it came out of no where and the established community has enjoyed these rules unfettered by Admin since the inception.
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