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Zoner Council Restructuring
Offline Dab
10-10-2009, 04:35 AM,
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Lousia Salome, I was there from the SHIZL's beginning and I've not forged anything about it or its creation. The SHIZL was never property, ownership, or anything of the TAZ. It was made using the authority of Chairman that Malaclypse had. SHIZL created many policies that were never put to a vote. One recent example, and one which I have documented evidence of;

The response to Apocalypse's request to station their fleet on a Zoner station. This issue was never put to a vote in the Council of Zoners. It was never discussed in the Council of Zoners.. But a policy was made, that it wasn't allowed. And who made that decision? The SHIZL, not the Council. But was this something that the SHIZL should have been dealing with? Were the Apocalypse's rogue Zoners, or were they abusing Zoner equipment at the time? No, they were not Zoners, and they were not using Zoner equipment. So it fell outside of the SHIZL's jurisdiction, but the SHIZL was still the ones to take control of that negotiation, not the Council.

You say I'm paranoid, and perhaps I am, because I'm seeing here that former comrades of mine seem to be conspiring in secret. What Yev Lightwing said, "In this manner, we can all conduct our own diplomacy within our geographic regions without ideological interference." The meaning of this is quite clear. I may be paranoid, but I see here a justification for it.

And your accusation that I don't help in protecting other Zoners and our stations is downright insulting. Not only do I do my fair share of it, but I've been doing it since long before you were ever a delegate. When the rampant numbers of Corsairs were pirating us in Omega-49, what did I do? I moved a Carrier to Gran Canaria. Before the end of that first day I was in a fight with five Corsairs, and your own pilots witnessed this. That is just one example of many. But my greatest skills aren't in running around in a carrier shooting everything I see. They are, as you called it, "Working on my smart speeches."

You can shoot the Corsairs a million times, but they will only come back harder, stronger, and more determined. I don't entertain the notion of settling our conflicts with such crude methods. My 'smart speeches' can do more than any lone carrier can. Would you prefer my carrier save the lives of a dozen Zoners, or my words save hundreds by ending the conflict? I'm disappointed if the only support you can recognize is that which is given from the barrel of a gun.


To Nichols, it is true that participation in the Council of Zoners is voluntary. However, there are some policies that, once agreed to, are expected to be followed by all Zoners, not just the delegates who have taken the time and effort to discuss and vote on them. The biggest example are our Official Policies. Malaclypse, who was chairman at the time, even stated;

"Effective immediately, the following Policies are in effect at all Zoner Facilities, and will be observed and enforced by all Council of Zoners Members and Official Zoner Factions."
/signed,
Malaclypse, Chairman, Council of Zoners

Observed and Enforced by members of both the Council of Zoners and the Factionized Zoners. Important policies like the ones in that document, or treaties with other factions, houses, corporations, and groups are expected to be abided by all Zoners everywhere. Less important policies are not expected to be followed by everyone. But since every Zoner has the right and the access to the Council, I can not bring myself to feel sorry for those who must abide by policies when they didn't take the time and effort to put out their own thoughts on the matter or vote on it.

The quote of what I said that you attached to your message is quite a poor example, considering that one of the SHIZL's original duties was to deal with Zoners causing problems, especially between other Zoners. The situation that quote refers to was where one Zoner was accusing an insulting another because he mentioned a few Zoners, without naming any, were disrupting negotiations with other factions. The Zoners I was referring to in that message were the Zoners that were destroying those negotiations. That does fall within the jurisdiction of the SHIZL. However, things like the Apocalypse situation I described above are not the SHIZL's responsibility, and there were other instances where similar decisions were made.

Now I've fully accepted the blame that is mine for going along with what the SHIZL was doing, but that doesn't change the fact that it happened and it needed to be fixed. The Security Council is the same organization as the SHIZL, but with more clearly defined roles and a way for the Council of Zoners to exert some control over it, should it start to get out of control like the SHIZL did. It basically fixed the main problem that was made when Malaclypse set the SHIZL up as being separate from the Council, and had no check on its authority.

And now you claim that your organizations are making policies that only affect yourselves, which flies right in the face of what Lightwing said earlier. You ask me not to think that you're cutting the Zoners up into different zones to be handed out, but you've offered nothing to show what you truly are planning. So how can you expect me to make any other decision? I can only use what I have, and what I've seen so far does not paint a very pretty picture of your actions.

You don't want to be falsely accused, then give us the facts and stop hiding them behind your back.
-Aurelia Silvan
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Messages In This Thread
Zoner Council Restructuring - by Dab - 10-10-2009, 01:11 AM
Zoner Council Restructuring - by Jinx - 10-10-2009, 01:49 AM
Zoner Council Restructuring - by DAnvilFan - 10-10-2009, 01:51 AM
Zoner Council Restructuring - by Dab - 10-10-2009, 02:29 AM
Zoner Council Restructuring - by lousal - 10-10-2009, 03:06 AM
Zoner Council Restructuring - by SigCorps - 10-10-2009, 03:10 AM
Zoner Council Restructuring - by Dab - 10-10-2009, 04:35 AM
Zoner Council Restructuring - by DAnvilFan - 10-10-2009, 06:04 AM
Zoner Council Restructuring - by Malcolm_Reynalds - 10-10-2009, 09:06 AM
Zoner Council Restructuring - by reisiger_duke - 10-10-2009, 09:52 AM
Zoner Council Restructuring - by DAnvilFan - 10-10-2009, 05:01 PM
Zoner Council Restructuring - by kuth - 10-10-2009, 07:11 PM

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