' Wrote:I do. I just think you're wrong. If you're using equipment from a faction, you had to get that equipment somehow, and if you're using their ship that generally implies that you are more than slightly friendly to them, unless it's a group like the Zoners or Junkers who are more concerned with profit than keeping their ship designs from falling into enemy hands.
You want to play a truly generic pirate? Plenty of ships available that way, and enough weapons. CT series, Pirate series (the Bloodhound line), Slipstream, Marauder, Crow, Virage, Raven's Talon, possibly Vipers (Zoners make and sell them), Pirate Transport, Arwing (infocard says it's sold to freelancers; might draw a little suspicion from Outcast allies, but you can't please everyone).
As for weapons, Barragers, Furies, Flashpoints, Debilitators, Codenames.
Yeah ... true ... but since pretty much every base sells the same capship weapons ... what's the point. You can get Cerberus, Liberty, Zoner, Corsair, Order turrets at Zoner, Junker and many other bases. So that pretty much takes care of the purchase issue.
And then there's the debate as to whether Liberty GB turrets belong to Liberty good guys or Liberty Rogues. There's no such thing as a Junker GB turret ... how about a Molly GB turret ... nope ... they don't exist either. Hmm ... since there are very VERY few faction specific GB or capship equipment around ... how can you make your claim that the equipment makes them part of a faction?
As for the ships and equipment ... if I'm a Pirate (with Pirate ID) ... I'm friendly with all the unlawful factions. So I can pretty much get whatever unlawful ship I want and load it with other unlawful weapons. I'm neither Outcast nor Corsair ... so I can buy a combination of both. If you disagree here ... please please explain to me how a Trader ID'd vessel can dock and trade with both Outcast and Corsair.
There's a difference between being "friendly" with a faction and being "a part of" a faction. I can be friendly enough to buy a ship and equipment and not "be" one of them. Trader ID'd characters do this every day. Mercenaries do it ... even Bounty Hunters do this.
From the list of ships and weapons you provide ... sounds like your advocating limiting pirates to fighters. You must be a trader plant. Nice lobbying ... you must be running for office. Sorry ... Pirate ID limits me to a gunboat ... that means I'm allowed to have a gunboat. And it means I'm limited to whatever gunboat turrets are available. Sorry ... they don't sell civilian gunboat turrets. And there's no generic Pirate ships or weapons.
I'm curious though as to what characters you have and what they fly.
Sorry ... but I'm not gonna limit what I own based on some "theory" you have. If you're not willing to lobby for limits on trading vessels and equipment on the Trader ID ... don't talk to me about the Pirate ID. You see Firefly's and Advanced Trains everywhere. What bases are they sold at? The Firefly is sold on Cambridge ... so you gotta be friends of the corporation that owns Cambridge ... oh ... does that mean the guy that owns a Firefly is not allowed to dock on bases that are enemies of the Cambridge corporation? We're about to get really complex here. Corporations do have enemy corporations ya know. You can't just be a Trader with a Firefly and be able to just dock anywhere you like. Same with the Advanced Train. I know they sell that in Newcastle (Bretonia). The Mammoth is on California Minor. Which corporation owns California Minor? Better check who their enemies are and not dock there. X-Shuttle sold on a Planetform base in Tau 31 and New Tokyo ... who are their friends and enemies?
Don't give me any do as I say not as I do attitude ... cause what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
