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Politics and Role Play
Offline Dab
09-18-2008, 08:10 PM,
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I'll say this in as little words as I can..

You get a Corsair to be adjudicator in Sigma-13 at Yanagi. Well first, that Corsair regularly struts about in his Corsair Gunboat, then when he sees enemies, he hops on to his Order Osiris and kills them, then goes back to his gunboat so he can find targets without getting shot, by protecting himself with this 'neutral' shield.
Second, you want Outcasts to be diplomatic with you. Let me say this against. You get a Corsair to be adjudicator in Sigma-13, rather than using one of your own, a Junker. That defeats the entire purpose of diplomacy. Would the USA hire some diplomat from France to do all of its foreign diplomacy? I think not, they would use an American diplomat. Your a Junker who called in a Corsair for your diplomacy. I don't know what was in your mind when you thought of that, but that is NOT diplomacy. Thats begging the Outcasts to disagree with you, so you have something to complain about them for. First, we see this Corsair in Sigma-13.. Well, Outcasts are at full blown war with them. How are we supposed to react when you choose one to protect your interests in Sigma-13? With disdain, contempt, and lasers. No matter the circumstances, if its Corsair IDd and tagged in Sigma-13, its going to get killed by the Outcasts. They don't care if its working with the Junkers or not. You want to have some politics with us, than YOU do it, not send some Corsair to do it so he can switch to a battleship everytime he finds an enemy.

Quote:So of course, knowing that a Corsair adjudicator would raise Outcast eyebrows and wanting diplomacy with the Dragons, I had fully planned on diplomacy with the Outcasts. From them I have the "You will die dog!" response.
Let me just get this straight please.. "So of course, knowing that a Corsair Adjuducator would raise Outcast eyebrows," and "I had fully planned on diplomacy with the Outcasts."

You did say this correct? I'm just making sure everyone has this as clear as it really is.

Quote:In the mind of the Junker politician, "Vladimir Tinkerbell", this is about Junker sovereignty...the ability for Junkers to be self-determining in forming their own government. To show they can make unilateral decisions and don't have to "do what they are told and shut up". It is very much like the US standing up to Britain over British ships "press ganging" US sailors into the British navy after the Revolutionary War.
I just need to get this correct as well.. Your the Americans being oppressed by the British. Not quite sure if I've ever seen an Outcast tell you what to do, but the point is moot. To protect your freedom, you hire a Corsair to defend you. Lets say that one more time. To protect your freedom, you have a foreign warship from a piratical faction protecting your station for you.

Are we clear here as well?

Oh, and a snipit;
Quote:and I get a lot of veiled threats--but no comment directly from any Outcast leadership.
Would you like me to get the message you recieved from the Council of Dons that Ross Nolles sent you?
Oh, here it is.
I think you'll find your own 'I don't want to have to deal with you' response directly beneath.

Oh, and a third thing we need cleared up.
Quote:Junkers can appoint representatives to administer their own affairs
Quote:Junker freedom and independence.
Did I hear that right? Yes?

Quote:Many Junkers have asked me to field cap ships and start actively attacking those harassing us at Yanagi and I have told them to wait a diplomatic solution.
So we hire a Corsair, someone actively at war with a faction that makes up 40% of Sigma-13's population. No doubt about it, quite clear here.

Quote:As a Junker "leader" (of sorts) I am charged with maintaining traditional Junker allegiances--I can't afford to bend to far one way or the other and must try to represent all sides as best possible. So I wouldn't "in character" pick Corsairs over Outcasts (or vice-versa).
Can we sanction people for breaking their own rules? No? Damn.

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Messages In This Thread
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-18-2008, 07:48 PM
Politics and Role Play - by obnoxious1 - 09-18-2008, 08:07 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Dab - 09-18-2008, 08:10 PM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-18-2008, 08:34 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lucend - 09-18-2008, 08:58 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-18-2008, 09:07 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Dab - 09-18-2008, 09:13 PM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-18-2008, 09:16 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-18-2008, 09:24 PM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-19-2008, 04:53 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Elvin - 09-19-2008, 11:16 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Cawdor - 09-19-2008, 12:41 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Stoat - 09-19-2008, 01:04 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-19-2008, 01:27 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-19-2008, 04:44 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Dab - 09-19-2008, 04:47 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Elvin - 09-19-2008, 10:57 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Junker - 09-20-2008, 12:57 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-20-2008, 04:27 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-20-2008, 07:10 PM
Politics and Role Play - by McNeo - 09-20-2008, 07:39 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-20-2008, 07:47 PM
Politics and Role Play - by McNeo - 09-20-2008, 07:56 PM
Politics and Role Play - by farmerman - 09-20-2008, 08:18 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Yngen - 09-20-2008, 08:31 PM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-20-2008, 11:51 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Yngen - 09-21-2008, 01:07 AM
Politics and Role Play - by bluntpencil2001 - 09-21-2008, 01:20 AM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-21-2008, 01:30 AM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-21-2008, 01:38 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 08:22 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-23-2008, 09:04 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 09:16 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 09:19 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 10:34 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 10:37 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 10:40 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Linkus - 09-23-2008, 10:40 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 10:51 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-23-2008, 10:53 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Linkus - 09-23-2008, 11:00 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:01 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Linkus - 09-23-2008, 11:04 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:05 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 11:10 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:14 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 11:17 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:28 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-23-2008, 11:31 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:34 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 11:34 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-23-2008, 11:41 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 11:42 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:44 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-23-2008, 11:48 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-24-2008, 12:16 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-24-2008, 12:25 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-24-2008, 12:29 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-24-2008, 12:38 AM
Politics and Role Play - by farmerman - 09-24-2008, 01:09 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-24-2008, 01:12 AM

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