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Politics and Role Play
Offline Dab
09-18-2008, 09:13 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-18-2008, 09:13 PM by Dab.)
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' Wrote://
Try diplomacy :)

My last post was full of it. If you can't counter my points, just say so.

' Wrote:(I did miss the diplomatic messages--sorry--been working twenty hour days for three weeks. I'll try to find them)
Well thats funny.. I distinctly remember you having had posted immediately after we sent that. The post contained a quote of the entire transmission in fact.

' Wrote:This isn't a "let me prove you wrong" debate. I have my own role play reasoning for what I am doing. It doesn't mater if you like or agree with it. These are the decisions my character is making for his own reasons.

' Wrote:Tinkerbell's idea of "Junker best interests" and yours--as an Outcast--will be very different and he is not the "typical Junker" to begin with.
But he is a Junker correct? Representing the Junker faction at the moment. Therefor, should he not be acting like a Junker, or making decisions that are in the Junkers best interests?

' Wrote:What is in the Junker's best interest is to be in control of their own affairs.
No argument here. What the argument is, is having a Corsair in control of you, rather than you yourselves. Your not in control of anything, your under the control of Corsairs and with that, making yourselves enemies of the Blood Dragon, GC, and Outcasts.

' Wrote:Sometimes a conflict can cause unity where a lack of it does not. Politics is all about taking risks to get returns. You would be surprised at how many have quietly offered to take up arms on our behalf over this. That isn't our desire.
And now you require them to take up arms on your behalf, as you are intentionally causing that conflict between the Junkers and Outcasts. Thank you for confirming.

' Wrote:As to Outcast actions, the regular "sweeps" of Sigma demanding confiscation of all Nomad weaponry taken from the Wild...the undisciplined Dragons pirating and killing Junkers while Outcast pilots stood by and said if you fight them we will attack you--those were factors in deciding our course of action in Sigma.
Taking the nomad gear back is perfectly legit. And Dragons taking out Junkers.. We considering that 90% of the Junker tags I see are on Trader-IDd Adv. Trains taking Diamonds to Kusari. Also, as rules state, ID before tag. So those are traders, not Junkers. If you have any evidence that they are killing Junker ID'd and tagged transports doing something other than violating their territory for powertrading profit, please do share.


' Wrote:We don't have large fleets and massive forces. We needed a firm ally. Outcasts can speak to me any time regarding specific action by our adjudicator. Where are these massive cardamine convoys he is looting and pirating in Sigma?
*Clap. Clap.* "You have your firm allies now, and your firm enemies as well. Not only are there specific actions of your adjudicator, specifically him changing to his Order Osiris to BS-whore individual BD, GC, and OC fighters/bombers in the system. Then there is also the problem of him being a Corsair. Whether he was doing his pvp whoring or not, that would still be a problem. One you created and one you must not deal with. In case you need to know, or if you even care, El Nino is his Osiris, unless its had its name changed.

' Wrote:When Green Hawk is away from Yanagi, he is fully a "Corsair"--what he and you do to one another is not our concern. At Yanagi, he is "on duty" for the Junkers.
No, when he is at Yanagi, he simply sits behind a small neutrality shield. We've dealt with him abusing that so he can later attack us at will in an Osiris long enough, don't expect us to keep letting him sit there and prohibiting us from docking Yanagi for resupply and repair for much longer, whether Junkers like it or not.

' Wrote:Do the Outcasts propose an alternative other than "Do what we say or die?"
Do you wish to read the message we've sent? There really is no alternative, nor further politics to be discussed until the Corsair in charge of Yanagi has been dealt with and replaced with a true Junker.

' Wrote:We have an interest in this process beyond Yanagi--its the first place we put a principle into action and we want to establish and develop it fully there. It's non House space and it can get a little messy--we'll clean up when we are done.
Your causing it to be messy. Be assured, the Outcasts are not causing the problems here. You and your adjudicator are. Be prepared to deal with the consequences of your actions.


Now would you please be kind enough to respond to the rest of the issues I addressed in my first post? Specifically, why you picked a Corsair? I believe we all know the answer, but your free to give your side of the story.

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Messages In This Thread
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-18-2008, 07:48 PM
Politics and Role Play - by obnoxious1 - 09-18-2008, 08:07 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Dab - 09-18-2008, 08:10 PM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-18-2008, 08:34 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lucend - 09-18-2008, 08:58 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-18-2008, 09:07 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Dab - 09-18-2008, 09:13 PM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-18-2008, 09:16 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-18-2008, 09:24 PM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-19-2008, 04:53 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Elvin - 09-19-2008, 11:16 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Cawdor - 09-19-2008, 12:41 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Stoat - 09-19-2008, 01:04 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-19-2008, 01:27 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-19-2008, 04:44 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Dab - 09-19-2008, 04:47 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Elvin - 09-19-2008, 10:57 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Junker - 09-20-2008, 12:57 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-20-2008, 04:27 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-20-2008, 07:10 PM
Politics and Role Play - by McNeo - 09-20-2008, 07:39 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-20-2008, 07:47 PM
Politics and Role Play - by McNeo - 09-20-2008, 07:56 PM
Politics and Role Play - by farmerman - 09-20-2008, 08:18 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Yngen - 09-20-2008, 08:31 PM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-20-2008, 11:51 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Yngen - 09-21-2008, 01:07 AM
Politics and Role Play - by bluntpencil2001 - 09-21-2008, 01:20 AM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-21-2008, 01:30 AM
Politics and Role Play - by worldstrider - 09-21-2008, 01:38 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 08:22 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-23-2008, 09:04 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 09:16 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 09:19 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 10:34 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 10:37 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 10:40 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Linkus - 09-23-2008, 10:40 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 10:51 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-23-2008, 10:53 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Linkus - 09-23-2008, 11:00 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:01 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Linkus - 09-23-2008, 11:04 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:05 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 11:10 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:14 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 11:17 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:28 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-23-2008, 11:31 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:34 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 11:34 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-23-2008, 11:41 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-23-2008, 11:42 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Lohingren - 09-23-2008, 11:44 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-23-2008, 11:48 PM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-24-2008, 12:16 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-24-2008, 12:25 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Culebra - 09-24-2008, 12:29 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-24-2008, 12:38 AM
Politics and Role Play - by farmerman - 09-24-2008, 01:09 AM
Politics and Role Play - by Jihadjoe - 09-24-2008, 01:12 AM

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