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Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports
Akumabito
09-25-2008, 11:41 PM,
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' Wrote:People that do get sanctioned have ever right to and sometimes do appeal their sanctions. All they have to do is post in the report thread.

It doesn't work that way, you still are not allowed to see the evidence against you, and not allowed any real input. The appeal process is a process in name only.

' Wrote:Yes trial by forum happens now, but imagine how much worse it would be if everyone wanted to put their two cents in on everysanction.

They still want that now, what stops that isn't whether it's open or not, what stops that is if the admin actually moderates the thread to prevent it.

' Wrote:And Aku your sanction turned into a giant poo flinging fest because you made such a big deal about it

No, it turned into a giant poo fling because people were allowed by admins to spam the sanction thread. The point being is that a secret trial doesn't stop trial by forum, it only delays it or moves it.


' Wrote:As for retailitory reports, that is WHY the names of the reporters are kept hidden, to prevent that from happening. If the person being sanctioned dosent know who filled out the report, how can he/she retailiate?

People retaliate with sanction reports on people who angered them for other reasons. That's why secret reports increase retaliatory reports.

' Wrote:As for faking evidence, how could you tell? Without software to determine if a SS was tampered with there is no real proof of tampering. It would just be he said she said.

As it is now someone could be using this tactic and no one would know. In an open system you would see the screenie and then be able to say "this is faked", and even if they didn't believe you, other people might be able to verify or at the very least they would watch the guy who reported it to see if this happened again.

Right now anyone can generate screenies that say anything by using their own server and characters with your character name and you would never know, because you are not allowed to see the screenie.

' Wrote:I still think the names of the accuser should be kept hidden, I think the system works just fine the way it is. 90% of the time it is open and shut cases, cheaters, hackers, Obviously OORP ships (Outcasts using Corsair equipment etc.) I still back the Admins on this one.

It isn't the 90% that matters, it's the 10% where there is some question, where something is misunderstood or misrepresented where it's important.

An open process keeps sanctions fair. There is no other way to make sure sanctions are being applied fairly.


' Wrote:its quite simple. They would accuse admins for false sanctions. Arguing how they haven't posted evidence. You only need to scroll a bit trough thee threads to see how unhappy those sanctioned can be.

And sometimes they have a valid reason to be upset. In an open system if the accusation against an admin is made there is no doubt, because everyone can see the evidence for themselves.

' Wrote:I agree that one needs a strong personality to argue with the authorities and demand clarification for their sanctions.

The problem is that not only will the admins not clarify your sanction, they will threaten you with banning for continuing to ask.
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Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by BaconSoda - 09-25-2008, 02:39 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by n00bl3t - 09-25-2008, 02:47 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by dr lameos - 09-25-2008, 02:52 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by kindred - 09-25-2008, 02:57 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by dr lameos - 09-25-2008, 02:59 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by BaconSoda - 09-25-2008, 03:03 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 03:05 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Fellow Hoodlum - 09-25-2008, 03:09 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by farmerman - 09-25-2008, 03:15 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 03:17 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by chovynz - 09-25-2008, 03:27 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by n00bl3t - 09-25-2008, 03:28 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by BaconSoda - 09-25-2008, 03:33 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Fellow Hoodlum - 09-25-2008, 03:34 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by n00bl3t - 09-25-2008, 03:49 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by tfmachad - 09-25-2008, 04:12 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by bluntpencil2001 - 09-25-2008, 04:15 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 06:14 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Srkad - 09-25-2008, 06:17 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Zelot - 09-25-2008, 06:20 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 06:23 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by looqas - 09-25-2008, 06:29 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Srkad - 09-25-2008, 06:46 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 07:02 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by looqas - 09-25-2008, 07:10 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 07:28 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by chovynz - 09-25-2008, 07:41 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by bluntpencil2001 - 09-25-2008, 07:45 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 07:47 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by bluntpencil2001 - 09-25-2008, 07:49 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 07:49 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Capt. Henry Morgan - 09-25-2008, 08:08 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by bluntpencil2001 - 09-25-2008, 08:10 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by looqas - 09-25-2008, 08:13 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 08:26 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by looqas - 09-25-2008, 08:39 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 08:50 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by LA-384 - 09-25-2008, 09:13 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Generation - 09-25-2008, 09:24 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by looqas - 09-25-2008, 10:07 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by jpo - 09-25-2008, 11:20 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Fellow Hoodlum - 09-25-2008, 02:59 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 03:44 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Dra1003 - 09-25-2008, 05:28 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Xoria - 09-25-2008, 05:36 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Zero755 - 09-25-2008, 09:31 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 09:49 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by chopper - 09-25-2008, 10:07 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Korrd - 09-25-2008, 10:36 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 10:53 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Zero755 - 09-25-2008, 11:26 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Primus Avatar - 09-25-2008, 11:33 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Primus Avatar - 09-25-2008, 11:36 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 11:41 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Zero755 - 09-25-2008, 11:51 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-25-2008, 11:58 PM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by n00bl3t - 09-26-2008, 12:00 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Akumabito - 09-26-2008, 12:14 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by chopper - 09-26-2008, 12:15 AM
Anonymity of Rule Violation Reports - by Fellow Hoodlum - 09-26-2008, 12:25 AM

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