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[Tenacity]

Tenacity, perhaps you could include links to the RP stories for the battleships in your Order roster. That could help maintain visibility of the various RPs out there as well as a reference for any that are not being RPed.

Ranks on the roster are being altered a bit once 4.85 nears or is released - If I can get players to submit their forum RP links to me, I'll put the links in with their names.

Apart from that, I have an order character and I am thinking of upgrading with the new mod release. I am not intending to write anything on it, however, you want people to write up forum RP. Why? It is not a prerequisite to fly any ship and never should be.

As I said before, having forum RP means a few things:
-You are active on the forums
-You've more than likely seen posts about bad RP'ers here, as well as sanction posts regarding them, so you're less likely to break the rules or be a bad RP'er yourself
-It lets the regulating faction (black squadron) know why you're using that ship, and what you're using it for
-It shows that you have at least some amount of RP skill and arent here just to pvp whore.

Now, the story I am working on for my own character in 4.85 doesnt really say why I'm getting or using the order carrier other than through promotion of rank - but I've been developing my order character for the past 6 months on these forums and in-game, and I'm fairly sure most people know that I'm a capable RP'er and regulate my actions in game by a set of rules that I have developed for myself, in order to ensure that I dont take action without reason behind it.

Most players have not had that kind of effort put into their characters - hell, I could name two order osirises that have appeared out of nowhere in the past 2 weeks who I've never seen on the forums - and one of them i've never seen any chat whatsoever from in-game, even oorp chat, he just plays silent, and doesnt seem to really know what he's doing. The other I've had some minor RP with in game, but that ship has been invovled in every single OORP attack against new york in the past two weeks as well. Neither of them would have my approval to fly the ships they do - i simply dont think they're deserving of it.

Looks like I'll have to add an unregistered indie order ship to my characters, one who refuses to listen to the high command once it was infected by nomads.

Looks like we'll have another one of our own ships to blow up, thanks for bringing never-ending loads of bullsh!t to this forum and server, akumabito. What would we ever do without you.

We should be more united, I don't like creating an "us and them" situation.

How was it an "us and them" situation? I put everyone together on the same roster.

We tread a dangerous path if we do that, there isn't room for a second Order faction, so scratching for ideas, I'd like to suggest that all Indy order pilots become official reservists.... you know weekend warriors. It still gives them freedom, but the ability to have a more structured RP ranking system.

There are some independents, namely myself and tenabras, who would be pretty pissed if we were turned from trusted indy order players to 'weekend warriors' with no authority in the direction of the faction. This has already been discussed - most independents should listen to mid-to-high ranking Bs| players when they are present. Tenabras and Aki.Kimura have both been authorized to lead order operations in the absence of the four black squadron admirals, but we take orders from them when they are around or disagree with what we're doing.

It is militarily and logistically impossible for a squadron to have such far reaching and absolute control, your name doesn't suit your role. This shouldn't be ignored and given exception because of the lineage that Bs| carries on the server.

I brought this up already, they arent changing their name anytime soon - the indepenents who have a problem with their control over the order will just have to suck it up and deal with it. The order itself is not an entire military faction, it's a fleet of ships with basing in omicron minor and omicron 100 - granted, it's a rather large fleet, but it's still a fleet rather than an entire military.

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