Authority of Independents

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Explain where this is an issue. I'm not discounting that it isnt, but I want to know what factions have that problem.

Up until very recently, there has been nothing but respect between black squadron and order independents. That's one of the reasons the group has kept so 'clean', we have very few pvp whores or bad RP'ers that wield an order ID.

I dont know what incited the change, but out of nowhere within the past 2-3 weeks there have been indy osiris battleships coming out of -nowhere-. No forum RP, no forum account on most of them, little to no in-game RP. It was fine one second, then *bam* osirises all over the place. These osiris players, rather than respecting past RP of both black squadron and order independents, decided to raise hell wherever they went, primarily in new york - which as everyone here knows is already a cesspit of OORP behavior; the last thing it needs is more capwhoring, pvpwhoring, oorpwhoring elements added to the mix.

So, in reaction to these players who have completely overturned the reputation of the order in the course of two to three weeks, black squadron and the order independents who work with them (I am not the only one, believe it or not) have started to take action against these players to try and 'clean up the mess'. We've tried reasoning with them in-game, that didnt work. We've tried to catch them breaking server rules for sanctions, that didnt work. Now we're left with only one choice, and that's forcing them to come up with forum RP to explain their use of the ships they own. If they cannot do that, we'll have to take forceful action against them in-game to deal with the situation, that's the only path left.

A few of us try to handle a situation gone bad, and suddenly we're faced with page upon page upon page of threats, arguments, insults, flames, and crying from every corner of these forums as everyone with an inkling of anti-factionist behavior comes out of the woodwork to throw things into chaos.

I'm sorry, but if you are not directly a part of the situation we're trying to resolve, stay the hell out of it. You dont belong, most of the people who have decided to pitch in their "opinions" on the situation do not belong either. Simply put, you dont have the details, you dont know what's going on, and you havent had to deal with the hassle of trying to control people who are giving your faction, or affiliation in general, a bad name because they dont know how to restrain themselves.

If they did not break server rules then what is the problem? You sound as if you were stalking their every move because they did something which you personally did not like.

If you want to take "in-game action" then it would be hypocritical not to expect and "in-game action" in response. Namely, the TO.

Find the threats made in this thread.

I am an order player. I have said so. Also, I am going to be upgrading, most likely to Jinx's Destroyer/BC. Frankly, I do not see the need to write something up to fly that ship, because I am not going to be going around whoring. (Something that you claim you and the Bs| will do to those who do not bow down to the iron fist.) So yes Tenacity. It concerns me.

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.