Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs

[Grimly]

Okay,

Sorry for i cannot justify my answer later, I had to go.

Now why i said "NO" ?

Currently we have a problem with Capships being overrused. They are also underpowered against bombers. However, if you buff the capships, the capship spam gets worse. Make them capships worse and there is no point to them. From what I've seen, capships are being buffed. But in return, they are being SEVERELY restricted to certain places in space. BHG Capships restricted to Omicrons and such I believe? Well the problem with that is there is a lot of prey that are too powerful for fighters and bombers, and that prey is in the core systems. Also, the Bounty Hunters would have more of their warships in the core systems where its a bit easier to ensure their safety. Matter of cost, they don't want to risk losing such expensive equipment.

Here I agree to space restriction. Why isn't it working like the corsairs do ?
As corsairs, all destroyers and higher ships have to stay in corsair (O-5, O-41, O-Gamma, O-Kappa, O-Delta)/order (O-Minor only) space.

The only thing i disagree is the example you gave. Do you know how much capital ship are attacking Gamma every day ?
They die every time they attack ! The hunters may then give up their battleship due to the fact they are useless.
3 core bombers deal us more damages than an entire fleet of battlecruisers (and god know how much they are around gamma).

And right now, 1 bomber with Inferno + SN or shield busters + SN can take out most Gunboats solo if skilled enough (exception is the BHG GS which I take it is getting an agility nerf this coming version). 2 bombers can take a cruiser easily and a battleship if one has an Inferno as well as Supernova. 3 bombers can destroy anything. Meanwhile, VHFs can't kill bombers as easily as they should be able to, and LFs don't have the firepower to hurt a bomber without fighting a 1v1 for an hour. I've done it in a Liberator. 2 Adv. Debs and 2 Vengeance Mk Vs took an hour to take a Taiiden's bots from 100 to 1. And after that, the bomber simply thrusted some 50km to a JH to Colorado, easily escaping. I think everyone already agreed that 4.84 bombers were simply too good. Too good of an agility, a few could SN fighters easier than the fighter could shoot the bomber (Praetorian specifically, BD Bomber was more of a too-much-agility problem, same as Taiiden). The problem is that the huge numbers of capships have forced people into bombers. Heck, my VHF piloting skills have actually gotten worse because I'm in my bomber so much. There are a lot of other people who would rather fly a fighter, but if they do, three or four times a day they have to retreat when an enemy capship shows up.

The BHG GS is right enough nerfed as it is. Just look at his hull ! A single SN shot can kill one if they do not have a CAU mark 8. The only thing it may be fixed might be his hitbox and design (too small for his class) as well as the nomad destroyer's one (try it on an other server, you will understand really fast).

I'll correct it : 1 bomber can destroy a single destroyer if this last one do not have any missiles.

A VHF CAN destroy a bomber easily. I'd say the bomber have to be really sure of him to engage a fighter.
I just was killed yesterday by a heavy fighter (crow). The fight was one of the hardest and best I've done (I thank him a lot for this fight !) but I lost it cause of the heavy fighter agility.

A LF is NOT a fast killer. But you may try to use only 1 shield buster, a cannonball and 2 hull busters. They are also unbeatable for most of player because NO-ONE know how to use them.
The mines + CD are also useful, or the torpedo for the nomad LF.

I don't know your problem with the praetorian. Did I killed you with my SNAC ? But be sure it's a hell to shot right the target with a praetorian. That's due to the fact the SNAC tube is NOT in the middle of the ship.
The praetorian is also one of the worst bomber of all the mod against the fighters and other bombers.
The dragon red catamaran IS also THE best bomber of the mod against all fighter class vessels due to his small size. All guns are like in the center and it's just enough to go right in the direction to the enemy for all guns (SNAC as well) have the same orientation. Then it's not this much useful for a catamaran to group the SNAC for a focused shot.

And about the capital ship ... I agree. But the problem is not the capital ship. It will be a lot of them regardless we restrict them or not (look at SOB for example, i counted almost as much capship as fighters).
The problem are the missile turrets !

Drop out all missile turrets and you will see less capships, more bomber, then after a week, more fighters.
I think everyone know I set a bounty on all missile launcher ? That's the reason. I want to lead them in HELL !

Battleships: Slight (15%) hull increase. Shields increased by 30%. Shield Regeneration decreased to nearly nothing. This idea we had gotten from Nexus, TJI. There is a ship called the Support ship that has a shield called a Fort Shield. An enormous shield that other ships can sit in. Unfortunately we can't use that part. But we had the idea of nerfing the regeneration severely. That way you don't need bomber firepower just to keep it down long enough to hurt the hull. 1 VHF could keep a cruiser shield steady while still maintaining evasive excersizing. 2 VHFs could keep a BS shield steady. Meaning 2 VHFs could slowly (and I emphasize SLOWLY) drain a cruiser shield. VHFs are meant to play an endurance game, while the capital ship is meant to try taking them out in any way possible, as quickly as possible. Since capships have a range advantage, a VHF or bomber can't just sit out at distance and shoot till shield falls. That way the capships will always be able to fight back. The regenerations will be about 15% of the current regen, so 100 regen would now be 15 regen per second. And if it can be done, the time period between when the shield is down and when it gets restored should be doubled. More time when its not protected by shield. So we're increasing capacity, while reducing regeneration.

A fighter is NOT done to kill a battleship.

This would increase VHF usage and lower bomber. In this way the VHF can still help contribute to a fight. Also with the shield decrease but hull increase, shooting off a capship's turrets with fighters would be a useful tactic, rather than who can do the most damage the quickest. It adds to the tactical choices available.

In return, I'd suggest Battleship impulse changed to 100, Cruiser impulse changed to 90, with thrust allowing 150. Gunboats impulse at 100 as well, and thrust to 180. Not 200 though.

Be sure if I'm fighting a capital ship, I'm happy if a VHF show up near me. I could also say I already killed with someone else, in 2 sabres, 2 gunboat and 1 destroyer without reloads in any station.

Impulse to 180 for GB is a NO !!! It's enough for a fighter can't escape a missile boat.

Bombers get an agility reduction. With thrusters they can stay at range from a capship, though its difficult to do so with a gunboat, and they have to be close to hit with a Supernova anyway because of a GB's agility. However, with Cruisers and Battleships, you could have 2 bombers paired with 3 VHFs. The 3 VHFs go in and start dropping the battleship's shielding while the bombers stay out of range. Once the shield falls, the bombers can fly in, shoot their Supernovas, then fly off again. It gives VHFs a purpose of their own in anti-capship battles. Since they have the agility to dodge the Battleship's fire, and they would now have the ability to drop the shield after a long period. However, the bombers would have 75% of their current agility. Quite a big decrease, you'll notice. But as outlined above, they are NOT meant for close combat, but to wait for fighters to reduce the defenses, swoop in, do their damage, and retreat to range again.

NO and NO.
Fighters are definitively NOT here to fight battleships.
And the bombers, specially the praetorian, are already enough nerved this way !

For the VHFs. Powerplant increase would be crucial. I'd say a 20% increase to total, with 5-10% increase to regeneration. However, agility, weapon count, weapon damage, all that can remain the same. The only change would be powerplant.

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NO !!!
Drop your sabre, get a titan, you will see there is an enough good power output.
This is not a "all in eagles with no power cost nomad cannon" mod
If you allow the sabre to shot all the time, his agility and strength will make it the best of all the mod.

I'll also stay here for now.
And be sure the hunters already paid the cost of using only capital ships.

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