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Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs
Offline Athenian
10-14-2008, 07:07 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-14-2008, 07:08 PM by Athenian.)
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' Wrote:I am talking about the topic. Please don't attack me for personal reasons and try to pass it off as something else, OK?

There are really only a couple directions to go with cap ships themselves, make them stronger against bombers, either by nerfing the SN or increasing the anti-small ship defense of the caps, making them weaker, or keeping them she same. The more complex you make the changes, the more chance of unexpected results you have.

I think if you make cap ships more versatile it will increase the number of caps. Not a bad in and of itself but it's undeniable that are a lot of cap haters on the forums, many of them faction players.

The other direction you could go is to eliminate the SN, and strip anti-fighter weapons from caps, making it difficult or impossible for a cap to kill a bomber/fighter and vica versa. That will reduce caps on the server. If that's done then something needs to be done to rebalance fighter combat, it takes way way way to long to resolve.

It's related issue to other rule and ID changes as well.

If you take the former track and make caps more versatile, then try to put more rule restrictions on who can fly them outside of official factions, then you are moving the server in the direction of faction only, making it more exclusive. While you may not like that point, and you may see it as anti faction, it is a legitimate point. Making cap ships stronger and then making them faction only is a slap in the face to indy players, it will create resentment.

Create resentment? Create? Ha.

Making caps more versatile will not affect the plethora of oorp capship PvP idiots who roam the systems like Dirty Harry on crack. They will always have to find the ultimate ship for winning in combat.

This issue has nothing to do with factions at all. It has everything to do with a slight modification of the ships out there in favour of something that, from what Jinx says, is moving towards co-operative play. That's co-operative, not faction.

Exclusive? What's wrong with being a little exclusive? People get excluded from things all the time. Every society excludes. Otherwise it doesn't survive. This isn't Montgomery, Alabama in the late fifties.




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Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Dab - 10-14-2008, 03:50 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Grimly - 10-14-2008, 08:52 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-14-2008, 09:26 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Tic - 10-14-2008, 09:26 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by mjolnir - 10-14-2008, 10:08 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Edge - 10-14-2008, 10:41 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Muleo - 10-14-2008, 11:58 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Grimly - 10-14-2008, 12:55 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by mjolnir - 10-14-2008, 01:55 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by ScornStar - 10-14-2008, 02:39 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Dab - 10-14-2008, 04:48 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Stoat - 10-14-2008, 04:55 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Jinx - 10-14-2008, 05:04 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Monk - 10-14-2008, 05:15 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Eternal - 10-14-2008, 05:17 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-14-2008, 05:18 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Monk - 10-14-2008, 05:21 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Blodo - 10-14-2008, 05:26 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-14-2008, 05:32 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Monk - 10-14-2008, 05:34 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-14-2008, 05:38 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Jinx - 10-14-2008, 05:44 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Monk - 10-14-2008, 05:44 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-14-2008, 05:54 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Dab - 10-14-2008, 06:18 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Eternal - 10-14-2008, 06:28 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-14-2008, 06:42 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Panzer - 10-14-2008, 07:00 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by mjolnir - 10-14-2008, 07:02 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Athenian - 10-14-2008, 07:07 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-14-2008, 07:10 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Panzer - 10-14-2008, 07:14 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Athenian - 10-14-2008, 07:15 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Eternal - 10-14-2008, 07:16 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-14-2008, 07:44 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-14-2008, 08:04 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-14-2008, 08:23 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-14-2008, 08:27 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Monk - 10-14-2008, 08:29 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-14-2008, 08:29 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-14-2008, 08:33 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-14-2008, 08:37 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-14-2008, 08:42 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Monk - 10-14-2008, 08:49 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-14-2008, 08:50 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-14-2008, 09:48 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-14-2008, 09:51 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Monk - 10-14-2008, 09:51 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-14-2008, 09:54 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-14-2008, 09:56 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-14-2008, 10:22 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-14-2008, 10:31 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by mjolnir - 10-15-2008, 10:45 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Othman - 10-15-2008, 11:21 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by gekerd - 10-15-2008, 01:09 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-15-2008, 01:15 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-15-2008, 04:16 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by mjolnir - 10-15-2008, 04:48 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-15-2008, 05:06 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by cmfalconer - 10-15-2008, 05:10 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Dab - 10-15-2008, 05:10 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-15-2008, 05:18 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by bluntpencil2001 - 10-15-2008, 06:04 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-15-2008, 06:27 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Yngen - 10-16-2008, 02:52 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-16-2008, 02:57 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Cellulanus - 10-16-2008, 03:14 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Dab - 10-16-2008, 04:11 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-16-2008, 04:21 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Dab - 10-16-2008, 04:24 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-16-2008, 04:30 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-16-2008, 05:17 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by RingoW - 10-16-2008, 07:41 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-16-2008, 08:02 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by NonSequitor - 10-16-2008, 10:34 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by mjolnir - 10-16-2008, 11:59 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by ScornStar - 10-16-2008, 03:09 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Robert.Fitzgerald - 10-16-2008, 03:15 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by ScornStar - 10-16-2008, 03:42 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by gekerd - 10-16-2008, 04:46 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Dab - 10-16-2008, 04:51 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by gekerd - 10-16-2008, 04:58 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Othman - 10-16-2008, 05:09 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by gekerd - 10-16-2008, 05:27 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-16-2008, 05:32 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Dab - 10-16-2008, 05:43 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by SevereTrinity - 10-16-2008, 05:46 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Dab - 10-16-2008, 05:57 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by gekerd - 10-16-2008, 06:37 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-16-2008, 07:51 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Panzer - 10-16-2008, 08:05 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Jinx - 10-16-2008, 08:26 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by gekerd - 10-16-2008, 08:52 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-16-2008, 08:57 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-16-2008, 09:04 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by gekerd - 10-16-2008, 09:18 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-16-2008, 09:22 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-16-2008, 09:30 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by mjolnir - 10-17-2008, 02:57 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-17-2008, 04:59 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-17-2008, 08:34 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-17-2008, 09:42 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by mjolnir - 10-17-2008, 09:51 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-17-2008, 09:53 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-17-2008, 09:59 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-17-2008, 10:11 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by mjolnir - 10-17-2008, 10:18 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Athenian - 10-17-2008, 10:25 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-17-2008, 10:25 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Athenian - 10-17-2008, 10:37 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Dab - 10-17-2008, 10:41 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Athenian - 10-17-2008, 10:45 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-17-2008, 10:46 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Athenian - 10-17-2008, 10:52 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-18-2008, 12:52 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by bluntpencil2001 - 10-18-2008, 01:39 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by n00bl3t - 10-18-2008, 02:30 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-18-2008, 02:51 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Fellow Hoodlum - 10-18-2008, 04:30 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by RingoW - 10-18-2008, 11:08 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-18-2008, 09:04 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Yngen - 10-19-2008, 05:02 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by gekerd - 10-19-2008, 09:47 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 10-20-2008, 03:29 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Cellulanus - 10-20-2008, 03:45 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-20-2008, 04:17 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-20-2008, 04:25 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-20-2008, 04:40 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-20-2008, 04:54 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-20-2008, 04:56 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-20-2008, 05:04 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-20-2008, 05:17 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Dab - 10-20-2008, 05:20 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-20-2008, 05:29 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-20-2008, 05:36 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-20-2008, 05:42 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-20-2008, 05:49 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-20-2008, 05:51 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-20-2008, 05:55 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Orin - 10-20-2008, 05:59 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Akumabito - 10-20-2008, 06:05 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by looqas - 10-20-2008, 07:34 AM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Fellow Hoodlum - 10-20-2008, 03:18 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Monk - 10-20-2008, 04:33 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Gamazson - 10-20-2008, 05:06 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by ferongr - 10-20-2008, 05:27 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by mjolnir - 10-20-2008, 07:37 PM
Idea on Capships, Bombers, and VHFs - by Rogue63 - 10-20-2008, 08:22 PM
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