-optimize the size of the bombers, i.e. no more 'light' or small bombers.
There comes the problem with GBs the smaller ones are about 2-3 times the size of average bomber now (Praetorian, Challenger...)
If you make bombers bigger they will suddenly get killed by anti-gb guns. On the mention the GBs themselves.
Quote:-remove elite fighter guns from the bombers entirely, put guns or turrets on them such as they would need to complete missions effectively but be useless against a VHF. class 7 guns or less in other words. And no missles.
I'd love that yes... but it's not possible without a playerwipe.
Quote:**There is an interesting option with bombers not explored yet. Why not increase their thrust speed to something faster than normal, like 250. Give them the extra speed to in effect make them 'dive bombers.' You could compensate for the increased speed by further decreasing their maneuverability (much like WW2 dive bombers that were slow turners but fast climbers and divers.) This would of course mean the supernova/nova speed would have to be decreased to compensate.**
This will make it impossible for fighters to defend capships from them.
Also I don't get where you have the "capships and bomber groups" from. You might have noticed that in all the events that were around everyone mostly stopped using bombers (unless only 3 people meet on each side). Even in the RM vs TBH in 4.84 Dustin of all people was forced to stop using one of the smallest bombers in game because he was getting gang-raped in it.
So all these fights are mostly VHF swarm vs another VHF swarm... and if someone tries to bring a BS or some other caps in there.. the VHF swarm blasts it in seconds without problems (ex. Eppy in Eta).
...ehh what class was overpowered again?
One of the biggest reasons why bombers are "overused" is that for many factions they are simply the best non-vanilla fighters. And people get tired of dying to one lucky nuke from a nuke-spamming enemy in their extramely armored Templars/Titans/Avengers....
with that problem removed I think we'll see some changes.
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And pls stop bringing Red Cat/Cat vs x ships on the table..yes it's overpowered..same for Taiidan... try to do the same in a Havoc or BHG bomber.
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