BAF with Pirate ID's ?

[Zapp]

My whole point, if anyone cared to look for it, was not to whine but to point out one basic flaw in the logic of having BAF pirates. In this very thread they say they make demands from everyone, whether they're hauling cargo or not, whether they're holding Kusari IDs or not. That is basic and pure piracy. Ironically I was accused of OORP today because I held a Zoner ID (look it up, they're described as neutral on the WIKI) and flying a Liberty Gunboat.

Make demands of everyone... in Kusari. Trading with Kusari makes people enemies of Bretonia, simple as. If they're trade ships in there, with or without cargo, they're more than likely trading with Kusari. Being in the Taus and heading towards Kusari makes you about to trade with Kusari, which is also bad.

Also, being neutral to people does not mean you can fly their ships. LPI and KSP are technically neutral, and you won't see them flying each other's ships, now will you?

This whole BAF piracy thing is nothing more than OORP. Either you're lawful or you're not. If you're a pirate then you should be flying pirate ships, NOT lawful naval ships. It's nothing more than an excuse to have better ships than other pirates.

Better ships? Pirates could pick a Sabre, and we all know that the Sabre is better than the Templar. Don't throw that around. Also, bashing others as OORP just because they have an unconventional RP is not cool. Trust me, I know what it's like to have a unique RP assaulted (read: Wesley Richter's LWB Wrath [and before you complain about it, read it, or I'll just ignore your complaints as I'm sick of arguing with people that haven't read it]). You can have the best RP in the world and still be called OORP just because its not exactly as things are with the NPCs.

If you're lawful then you don't demand things of anyone other than those breaking the law. Law biding traders go on their merry way, unhindered. Only pirates make demands of law biding traders. Pirates are, in the essence of this role playing game, not lawful.

To the BAF, you're not law abiding if you trade with Kusari. Simple as. You see them stopping people in Leeds and the Taus (the regulars, not the Privateers) if the trader has obvious intent to trade with Kusari. They're "lawful" traders, no contraband, but they've been declared unlawful. Nobody raises a stink about that.

I don't care how "approved" they are by lawful BAF holding lawful IDs or by the admins, they're still nothing more than pirates allowed to use better ships than pirates are supposed to by the established role play of this game. They also set the precedent that those outside of a house military are allowed to use gunboats.

Again, Templar > Sabre? Not. Splitters > Krakens or Tizonas? Not. And there are people outside house militaries that can use gunboats... you talking about lawful gunboats? They don't set that precedent, as they are house military...

Which way will it be? Either Zoners can use house gunboats, just like these pirates do, or nobody but navy and police of any given house are able. You can't bend role play for one small group of players and continue to say no to others. There is no balance in that.

Zoners can use gunboats. Not Liberty Gunboats, though. Try the IMG gunboat. And yes, you can bend roleplay for one small group of people. Keepers? Hello? They were allowed to play as Nomads, just that one group of people. Life isn't fair, everything isn't balanced. When Rheinland and Liberty go to war, feel free to be a privateer between them then (minus the [LN] tag), it'll be completely kosher.

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