@Badger: I didn't intend to have a go at the SF, as far as I knew the corsair dreadnought was a fully tagged and ID'd SF ship.
You have my apologies for anything implied.
As for corsairs using rhienland ships, I've never seen the point of yaren selling the rhienland bomber, though I doubt it'll be removed anytime soon.
If their not using the bomber then thats also a good example of the lack of RP.
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I never mentioned about RPing weapons beacause no-one would be interested in RPing and would only join/get the ID of whichever faction they think has the best weapons, which would mean there would be alot of players flying around as corsairs or outcasts.
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@Dab: Stop flamming for the slightest little reason or don't bother posting here again.
Your reasoning, dab, still fails when it comes to other factions.
The zoners have no 'good relations' with the corsairs or the outcasts, nor anyone else.
The zoner bases in tau 37 and theta are tolerated because they are currently useful, as soon as the zoners aren't useful they'll be destroyed.
So they would not sell the zoners any ships, weapons or equipment that might end up being used against them.
All of which is in the rumours you get in alpha and gamma, if people bothered to read them it'd clear up alot of misconceptions.
Your alignment to the zoners means that you should be neutral with everyone, it doesn't mean that everyone is going to trust you or sell you anything you like.
As for not being bound by the NPCs, thats only because they don't fit your faction exactly. The BHG or freelancer ID would fit your 'mercs for hire' background and image alot better.
Plus staying in the same systems as the NPCs would mean you could only go a few systems to trade etc, and that alot of players would never actually meet, let alone fight or be pirated.
There are no zoners in sigma 13, and the junkers aren't salvaging ships, their stripping and scrapping them for the ALG who are also doing the same thing.
Plus theres no way you could hide the fact that your basically stealing war-graves from the 80 years war, you'd need a small fleet of lifters to move just a cruiser, which would tell anyone who saw them exactly what you were doing.
Plus rhienland would go nuts if anyone even tried it.
The only time order ships and zoner ship ever meet is in delta, which is the only place they have the common enemy your referring to, the nomads.
The Order entered into an alliance with the corsairs before letting them have the plans for the osiris.
The Order isn't in an alliance with anyone else, thats why you only see corsairs using osiris's.
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As for the junkers, the only house ships they have access to are the debris in sigma 13. Otherwise they can always steal/salvage a damaged pirate ship, or rat out the owner and keep the ship... theres plenty of scope for some good and interesting RP stories of how a junker got a particular ship.
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The whole point of this thread was to draw peoples attention to, what I thought, were serious problems with the RP on the server and to discuss what to do about it.
