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BHG Warships. A flawed concept?
Offline Agmen of Eladesor
01-27-2009, 02:31 AM,
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' Wrote:And a forum post for a bounty on a "specifically identified" pirate works. But "generic" bounties completely avoid the need for a bounty hunter to bother checking the forum. So ... if you wanna make this point valid ... get rid of the generic bounties and I'd agree with you on that point.

Corsairs have more ZoI than just Gamma. Omegas are filled with Corsair ... the Corsair are at war with Red Hessians for ownership of the Omegas. They also have hostilities with Outcast and are allied with Order ... so they are not confined to Gamma.

BHG caps are supposed to be fighting Order ... not hunting bounties.

I'd agree to leave BHG alone if the BHG would hunt us pirates more reasonably. But accepting "generic" bounties and using overclassed vessels don't help your case. My pirate, Black.Pearl, does a bit of trading on the side. He moves water, food and medicine to those the house systems oppress. He hasn't pirated anyone in over 3 months. So hunting me without a specific bounty for something I personally have done pisses me off.

I wouldn't have a problem with that if it weren't for one minor game command: /renameme

Trader Atrain posts a bounty on Corsair Alpha due to his being pirated. Corsair Alpha sees that bounty posted and says, 'HAH! I'm a hunted man/woman/sheep - I'll just use some of my profits and assume a new identity." /renameme Beta - and voila, 2 million credits later, Corsair Alpha no longer exists, and instead there's Corsair Beta, a new pirate, ready to banzai into the trade lanes and annoy traders. And poor Trader Atrain wonders why no one is collecting the generous bounty he posted.

There are obviously certain pirates that don't do tihs - Phate and all his various ship configurations comes to mind right off the top (including one I saw just as a name - Phate.Spyglass!), all of Grimly's characters seem to have Grimly in them somehow or another. And we all know, too, that there are a lot of pirates that DO change their names.

That's why the 'generic' bounties came about in the first place. Governments issued them first, because they were too busy to name every single pirate that was operating in their borders.

Quote:The Guild in no ways subsidizes the operating costs of independent bounty hunter vessels.

As a result, it's utterly pointless for regular BHG members to operate vessels the sizes of Gunboats and above, as it would completely drain them of their profits.

The Guild Core, on the other hand, supplies their own vessels for their own purposes, much like how the LN, RM, and BAF, subsidize their military vessels. It makes sense for the Core to have capitals for specific purposes.

Well, yes and no. Independant hunters should have payroll, fuel, and other issues. Corporate bounty hunters - and I'm specifically using the S/D here - are a different story. We ARE regular BHG members - we're also not independant. For a corporation to have and subsidize an assortment of ships for their employees does make perfect sense - the whole point being, getting the most dollar (or credit) for their investment is what matters the most.

I've taken my ships out into Delta in the past. I simply told the Corsairs that I saw that I wasn't in Gamma for them, I was on my way out to deal with Nomads. And then I went out there. They left me alone, I left them alone. Common sense in gaming, I know a rare concept, but it works. I've even made comments to Order pilots that we're all human, and we should fight together against the common Nomad foe and defeat THEM first - then we can squabble amongst ourselves.

But of course, I know how to RP a Bounty Hunter, too.

Quote:It may be impossible to use BHG capitals without voluntarily, or involuntarily screwing up other people's RP and PVP experience.

Can't say. Haven't tried it yet. Note I said yet. Having never flown one, I can't say for certain, so I won't comment. But a damn good point - it may simply be unavoidable for many players. What makes it possible for some to do this and not others?

Knowing actually how to RP makes it possible. Go to the post about how having a larger ship makes it much EASIER to RP - because most NPC's can't touch dis. (Hammer time, break it down!) Then actually RP with the ship. Not to point ill at the dead and/or missing, but now that the DW is gone from the server, the only BH cap abuse is from some independants - just as the Corsair cap abuse is from some independants (or do I need to point out how many pirate cap ships got put into Bastille recently due to cap abuse?)

Again - it's the player, not the ships. Little boys and their big toys that don't want to play by the rules will always get smacked around. (Heck, I've even been in New Berlin as a Bounty Hunter in a bomber and was ready to assist the RM in running a BH battleship out of system that didn't want to go because it was a violation of Rheinland laws - because I as a hunter respect Rheinland laws when in Rheinland.)





(11-21-2013, 12:53 PM)Jihadjoe Wrote: Oh god... The end of days... Agmen agreed with me.
 
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BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by Guest - 01-24-2009, 07:29 PM
BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by Tenacity - 01-24-2009, 07:29 PM
BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by Death Shadow - 01-24-2009, 07:30 PM
BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by Dusty Lens - 01-24-2009, 07:37 PM
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BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by Robert.Fitzgerald - 01-24-2009, 07:58 PM
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BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by Dashiell - 01-24-2009, 08:37 PM
BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by Jinx - 01-24-2009, 08:42 PM
BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by Dashiell - 01-24-2009, 08:47 PM
BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by Agmen of Eladesor - 01-24-2009, 08:51 PM
BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by Dusty Lens - 01-24-2009, 09:02 PM
BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by Agmen of Eladesor - 01-24-2009, 09:20 PM
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BHG Warships. A flawed concept? - by swift - 01-25-2009, 07:27 PM
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