Discussion of Order Council

[Tenacity]

Dammit. Bluntage ruined the thread with his simple, rational argument.

I blame pot.

only problem is that his "simple, rational argument" goes against basic order RP - and not just what players have established.

Bluntage, you've failed in every one of your 'excursions' into new york to provide a reason for risking civilian lives, innocent bystanders, and a billion credit ship just to kill a few liberty gunboats and cruisers. Where is your rational explanation for that?

THAT is why we dont want people going into new york, because despite all the arguments here none of them negate the fact that doing so is out of RP for any order pilot, factioned or not. The order, in it's entirety, exists to protect human lives - now, lets say someone in new york IS infected, and you want to go deal with them - taking a battleship, and a juggernaut no less, to deal with a small threat like that is not logical in the least; you attract too much attention.

On top of that, not only do you end up annihilating the lesser armed opponent, your crossfire damages stations, passing ships, and everything else in the area. Congratulations, in exchange for one nomad infestee, you've just slaughtered a dozen innocents. Even further you're risking, as stated above, a 1 billion+ credit battleship to deal with a minor threat that could be handled with a couple fighters and bombers at much less expense. It doesnt hurt our resources much if we lose a single wing of fighters, but losing a battleship with over a thousand personnel is crippling to the order.

That is not how the order operates. The only thing we're restricting here is your ability to go pvp whore in new york. If you want to do it in alaska, fine, go ahead, we wont give you any argument - there are no civilians in alaska, and everything there is owned and run by the LSF and LN; there's not the slightest chance of civilian casualties. Also, even if your ship does get destroyed, we can recover it from alaska, recovering wreckage or escape pods from new york is not so easy.

This is your problem, you dont think about RP in it's entirety - your brain goes "oh hey, I want to kill some people today, lets go to the most populated system on the server and start shooting!" without considering ANY of the consequences of your actions.

Now, when you're capable of thinking outside the hull of your own ship, we'll listen to your opinion on the matter. Until then, deal with the changes that are going on, or find a new faction to run with.

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