New Order/BlackSquadron Role Play Rules

[Tenacity]

We cannot have a big party of every faction player voting on how Igiss' mod's RP canon is decided.

Then let him post and absolve the matter of any confusion. If it's his mod, where is the RP he wants us to follow? WHERE IS HE? Honestly, I know people have lives outside the game but I havent seen a post from Igiss in months, and the last one was only to give us a new map of the next mod version.

The problem we have here is hipocrisy. The admins sanction based on what they think is canon RP, what -they- think players should act like, but they sanction and ban players in the game for having their own opinions on RP.

If there is no public guide, you cant expect people to follow it. We're not psychics, we dont have any fricken idea what goes on in the admins heads concerning what is and isnt proper RP, so how the hell are we supposed to know when we're following it or not?

That is the entire root of the problems here lately - action is being taken against players for doing what they think is in RP, when there was absolutely nothing telling them "this is how you behave as a member of this faction, if you dont behave that way you get sanctioned/banned."

And on top of that, there's no accountability from either the players OR the admins when decisions like this are made.


Fact of the matter is, you cannot expect people to follow unwritten rules, so write the damn rules already. We have server rules that cover basic issues, pvp whoring, improper tag/id/ship/equipment, rules of engagement, etc. etc. so on and so forth - but not a single one of the relates to specific faction RP guidelines. There is too much room for error right now because there is too much room for personal opinion on the matter.

If the admins dont want to take action, if they dont want to find a way to establish a guideline for factions on what is and isnt proper RP, then they need to quit sanctioning players for RP violations (gear/equipment/etc. aside) ENTIRELY.

We have to go by what we have. We don't have much. The Order has Liberty as hostile.

And that is far too consistently used as an excuse to pvp whore. Players do not pay attention to their faction NPC's or RP established in the campaign, and without those they have no limitations other than "red iz ded!"

Now, the Bs has taken a different road, one some might say is not canon.

Until there is no room whatsoever to say "some", it isnt good enough. There needs to be set guidelines, as long as there are differing opinions within the loose guidelines of the server rules, there are going to be incidents like we've had lately, because players will disagree.

I'm sorry, and I know I'm going to offend a lot of people here when I say this, but... the majority of people cannot think for themselves, and they need to be spoon fed every step of the way or they'll end up choking or starving.

There can be no room for error, no room for dispute, because as long as there is then no sanction on one party or the other can be justified on RP terms alone.

You guys have a cease-fire with Liberty, I'd say that's different. Not bad different, but different.

We do not have a cease fire with liberty, there is no treaty, no alliance, nothing - this continually gets used against us regarding this whole dispute when it isnt true in the first place.

The ONLY restriction is attacks directly on new york. I dont give a rat's ass if you attack liberty, just DONT DO IT OUTSIDE OF ALASKA! how hard is that to follow? There is plenty of opportunity for pvp without going outside what MOST of us consider as canon RP for the order - and that is dont harm civilians when dealing with hostiles. I've said this time and again, but everyone refuses to listen to that simple peice of advice because they want to go tear up new york, the most populated and OORP-plagued location on the server, with more pvp and/or cap whoring.

When are people going to see the ****ing point of this conversation? The issue isnt that we're trying to control anyone, we're not stopping order players from fighting LN/LSF players, we're only asking that they quit adding to already-ridiculous server problems by staying out of ONE SYSTEM in this mod.

This is Igiss' world in the end. Players cannot make a vote and decide how his canon is going to work. Might make things confusing in some cases, but tough.

Then he needs to do it, or the sanctions need to stop. Simple as that, quit trying to sanction people for their opinion on how one should roleplay when there is no established norm for that player's affiliation.

Oh, I misunderstood, I thought all of this crap was happening because some people are gesturing wildly, running around with their hands in the air and applying hyperbole to anything with a flat surface.

Keep your avatar out of the conversation!

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