Discussion of Order Council

[Nevearo]

I could pass the same question to you just as easily.

1) is n00blet a Order character, if so, where's the role play? (i'm talking about biography, role play on forums, cause I haven't seen anything...)

2) What kind, if any, leadership skills do they posess? Persistance? Perseverance? No-Bullsh*t attitude?

I could go on. I've been through this so many times it's not funny and this is the oldest, yet still the most CHILDISH arguement i have ever had to deal with.

And before any of you ask, I *AM* a Certified Instructor in the martial arts. We teach leadership and life skills. While I know i do tend to go out of control at times, I do try to restrain my actions and leadership. But since that is not a possiblity here, I could venture to say no one but the admins have any right to lead.

My justification for calling you a bad leader is because of one simple fact.

1) You are not stepping down, dispite the fact that it is clear that it is a major problem with organizing this "thing" that you want.

If you wanted it for its own sake, you would let it grow.

To answer your bullets

1) I am only taking his word that he has one.

2) He possesses a reasoned attitude

To tell you the truth, it could be ANYONE else. I picked Noobl3t because, assuming he has an order character, the chances are he is going to be a better leader than you.


Martial arts instructor status does not convey leadership ability. Martial arts do teach self disipline and respect, but they don't teach the inherent qualities that make a good leader. A Good leader is first and foremost a good follower. A good leader takes inititive and does what is needed when it is needed. A good leader would not let the fact that others don't think they should be a leader from stopping the task from being complete, even if it means they aren't reconized as a leader. A good leader always leads, first and foremost, by example. You don't want to be a leader in this, because you can't be. You will be a Dictator. Someone who dictactes orders. Not a leader. This is my problem with the whole setup. If it is needed, why must the Bs| take a prominant position in it? Why isn't your position one that requires your voice be the council's voice? Why aren't you content to be among the voices of the council? Why can't you be part of the Choiar?

I do not question the Bs|.
What I DO question is You, Your Motives, and your intent. You arrive on the heels of a controversy of the Black Squadron again dictating RP to others, which has appearently been a problem of the past, and immediatly set out to get the whole process of giving them the power to do so without sanctions.

This bothers me as a new player of Discovery. You are arguing with a newbie, but my statements here are dead serious. Why? Why must you lead? If it is needed, place it and step aside. Abandon creative control. Don't try to be a tyrant. Step aside, let the Community that has had to live with this decide who leads and who is a member of it.

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If i wanted to, I'd just disband them. Yes, I do have that power to do so. I always did. I choose not to use that power, and let the faction admin itself, which apparently has not worked out as well as I had hoped after DBoy left. I returned to kick it into shape, not control it.
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Your threats of disbanding the Bs| over this subject are now Point 2 of why I think you would be a bad leader. You try to use a threat to get your way. A good leader does not need threats.