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Poll: Do you think the factions should control capital ship allowance and disallowance such as the RM has done?
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Faction Control of Capital Ships... or...
Offline n00bl3t
12-26-2008, 09:41 AM,
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' Wrote:Well, it's true. Indies can buy whatever they want as long as they have a matching ID and tag.

Debate the choice of font colour to your heart's content, but what Patriot said and Darth_Chernobyl rephrased is perfectly fine.

' Wrote:Answer is they all want to be power hungry cap whores themselves, without anybody to oppose them.

I try to see other answers as to why they do so.

' Wrote:Since that's the case, does that mean you won't mind us calling you an egocentric, self-righteous, anarchistic, punctuation-lacking moron, will you?
The issue here is the 'they are not meant' part. We're disagreeing strongly on this, because the Admins can't do enough, and they hold people to a considerably lower standard of capship RP than we do. If I see somebody in a Sabre who's borderline RPing I won't take too much notice of it, but caps draw instant attention-they always become the center of a group of players (except in New York, where the caps and players are both ((not caps so much anymore, THANK you, Joe)) so thick it doesn't matter), they always draw the most attention, and they can lay down the most firepower, as well as draw the most fire. They are always the center of attention, and an uncooperative borderline-RP Battleship can spoil the atmosphere a hundred times more than a borderline-RP fighter, because that's what people look at. We think asking a few reasonable things of potential cap owners before they buy their ships is the best way of keeping the OoRP and borderline-RP down-giving the people new to Discovery's style of RP (which is very unique-a DND player fresh off the boats wouldn't know what the hell he was doing for some time) a general set of guidelines they need to follow in order to be successful and help contribute to the atmosphere, which cap registration has largely succeeded in doing in Outcast space (as an experiment we took Reg off the Dessie and lo and behold, within a week we had four of them a day sitting out in front of the docking ring URing and Lolwutting all over the place, putting raids into Gamma several times a day, and not the same four characters a day. Expect it back up within a week).

Igiss and a number of the Admin team (and some very vocal anarchists) have decided that we shouldn't have this power. The borderline-RP state, to them, is acceptable, and that if we can't teach them how Discovery RP works with basic methods then we'll just have to let them be and disturb the atmosphere we're all so concerned with maintaining, on the grounds that a lot of faction RP is non-canon and that we'll be abusive, horrible monsters. Or something like that. That's how I understand it, anyway; I also understand it that apparently the Outcast cap registration (note that I say OUTCAST, not 101st, because it's controlled by the Council of Dons, not the 101st) is canon enough that the way we regulate capships is apparently in-RP and we won't be penalized for continuing to do it, but this is still confusing to me, and I'm very wary about what I do right now in regards to cap controls.

The other issue is faction sovereignty. Factions are given the opportunity to purchase a system in which they will have total control of everything that goes on inside, and that they can restrict access from anybody they choose. This is no longer the case, because apparently since the caps are inside Guard systems now we have to let the independents through if they have the correct tag and ID. This breaks our sovereignty and invalidates the purpose of buying the guard system for many factions, including mine (where a large portion of it is restricted military territory). This is putting the indie on an equal basis of the faction, so that "oooh! What does this button do?!" (as the indie is flying towards the black hole giggling and being an idiot in system as he flies into the black hole) can't be stopped by a "No! You fool! Intercept him, quickly! Ready to get the escape pod!" kind of policy-I have to let them run into the hole instead of RPing things out sensibly. But this does not apply to the 101st, apparently. Maybe. Possibly. Aaaaagh somebodyexplainthistomeagain.

First sentence pretty much calls everyone who disagrees with Eppy an idiot. Surprisingly, this has been seen before.

It then continues to create an empathy with the audience by relating independents to cap-whores, supported by flimsy evidence about OC Destroyers going on raids. (Mine still is not registered and no complaints about PVP-whoring yet.)

Abusive, horrible monsters? No. Abusers of power? Yes. It has been seen in the past, from you Eppy. (You pay 100 million to me to fly this ship or I PVP-whore you. Awesome RP.)

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Anything I say is not intended as offensive, and to try and deliberately misinterpret it as such would be an attempt at trolling via misrepresentation.

It's not a conspiracy, it's localised bias. They're not intelligent enough to form a conspiracy.
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Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 12-24-2008, 10:44 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 12-24-2008, 10:47 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Drake - 12-24-2008, 10:49 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Virus - 12-24-2008, 10:51 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by NerdRage - 12-24-2008, 11:14 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Linkus - 12-24-2008, 05:19 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Jihadjoe - 12-24-2008, 05:30 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Grumblesaur - 12-24-2008, 05:34 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cosmos - 12-24-2008, 05:36 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Nevearo - 12-24-2008, 05:40 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by kindred - 12-24-2008, 05:42 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Jihadjoe - 12-24-2008, 05:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-24-2008, 05:50 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by torchwood - 12-24-2008, 05:55 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Drake - 12-24-2008, 06:13 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by stewcool - 12-24-2008, 06:19 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Xing - 12-24-2008, 06:29 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by guitarguy - 12-24-2008, 06:30 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Guest - 12-24-2008, 06:37 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Malaclypse 666 - 12-24-2008, 06:44 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by MB52 - 12-24-2008, 06:49 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 12-24-2008, 07:05 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cellulanus - 12-24-2008, 07:09 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Jihadjoe - 12-24-2008, 07:30 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Magoo! - 12-24-2008, 07:37 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eternal - 12-24-2008, 08:42 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cosmos - 12-24-2008, 08:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Tenacity - 12-24-2008, 10:05 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by n00bl3t - 12-25-2008, 02:00 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cellulanus - 12-25-2008, 02:03 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by n00bl3t - 12-25-2008, 02:29 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-25-2008, 02:30 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by kingvaillant - 12-25-2008, 02:37 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Yuva - 12-25-2008, 05:03 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-25-2008, 05:12 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Caedes - 12-25-2008, 05:29 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Blackstarr - 12-25-2008, 06:01 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Balance - 12-25-2008, 06:28 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Tenacity - 12-25-2008, 06:34 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cellulanus - 12-25-2008, 06:45 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-25-2008, 07:05 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Malexa - 12-25-2008, 08:23 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by ryoken - 12-25-2008, 08:24 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Furball - 12-25-2008, 08:26 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Malexa - 12-25-2008, 08:41 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Drake - 12-25-2008, 08:50 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by tfmachad - 12-25-2008, 09:19 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Patriot - 12-25-2008, 09:23 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-25-2008, 09:23 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by tfmachad - 12-25-2008, 09:28 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cellulanus - 12-25-2008, 09:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by guitarguy - 12-25-2008, 09:50 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Ash - 12-25-2008, 09:50 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Dusty Lens - 12-25-2008, 09:53 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Markus_Janus - 12-25-2008, 09:56 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Dusty Lens - 12-25-2008, 10:03 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Patriot - 12-25-2008, 10:15 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-25-2008, 10:17 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Linkus - 12-25-2008, 11:30 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by ryoken - 12-25-2008, 11:45 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-26-2008, 12:49 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-26-2008, 01:25 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Caedes - 12-26-2008, 02:12 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Drake - 12-26-2008, 02:14 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by tfmachad - 12-26-2008, 02:26 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Linkus - 12-26-2008, 02:41 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by tfmachad - 12-26-2008, 02:47 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Snapp - 12-26-2008, 04:07 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by n00bl3t - 12-26-2008, 09:41 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Jihadjoe - 12-26-2008, 12:49 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by tansytansey - 12-26-2008, 01:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by swift - 12-26-2008, 01:53 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-26-2008, 01:55 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by swift - 12-26-2008, 01:56 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Panzer - 12-26-2008, 02:08 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Linkus - 12-26-2008, 02:44 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Xoria - 12-26-2008, 04:03 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-26-2008, 04:03 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Linkus - 12-26-2008, 04:21 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-26-2008, 04:37 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Xoria - 12-26-2008, 05:01 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-26-2008, 05:05 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Xing - 12-26-2008, 05:10 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by swift - 12-26-2008, 05:20 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-26-2008, 05:33 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Patriot - 12-26-2008, 06:03 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Xing - 12-26-2008, 06:07 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by X-Lancer - 12-26-2008, 06:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by teschy - 12-26-2008, 06:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Reverend Del - 12-26-2008, 07:00 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Jihadjoe - 12-26-2008, 07:13 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-26-2008, 07:20 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-26-2008, 07:49 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by kingvaillant - 12-26-2008, 07:59 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Reverend Del - 12-26-2008, 08:00 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Blodo - 12-26-2008, 09:09 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Snapp - 12-26-2008, 09:28 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by n00bl3t - 12-27-2008, 08:57 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by triple88a - 01-12-2009, 07:53 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by kingvaillant - 01-12-2009, 08:17 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by askura - 01-12-2009, 09:16 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by swift - 01-15-2009, 11:52 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by n00bl3t - 01-16-2009, 01:23 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by nankura - 01-16-2009, 10:18 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eternal - 01-16-2009, 11:26 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Tomtomrawr - 01-16-2009, 12:07 PM

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