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Poll: Do you think the factions should control capital ship allowance and disallowance such as the RM has done?
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Faction Control of Capital Ships... or...
Offline Eppy
12-26-2008, 05:33 PM,
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Quote:You are simply illustrating my point for me here. Declining to register does not make someone a non-roleplaying cap abuser, but they are treated that way if they decline to register : "Then we ask pretty nastily. THEN we order and get the Doomfleet on. Then, after all the asking politely and not-so-politely they STILL refuse to cooperate, we start shooting. "

Registering does not magically transform a non-roleplaying cap abuser into the opposite. Registration accomplishes nothing other than creating the basis for an us vs them mentality and the automatic assumption that someone who hasn't registered is guilty of something. That IS the practical effect of it, as demonstrated by the way both factionalized players and even non-factionalized players behave when a new capship shows up. The facts of on-server behavior on the part of factionalized and non-factionalized members contradict the intent that you claim.

No, it doesn't magically incite any transformation. Its job is to introduce the concept of Disco's RP in regards to capships to players who have never encountered it before. The reason everybody has to register is because it wouldn't be fair if we singled out certain people who had to register. You want fair play? We'll GIVE you fair play. It's not difficult, it's not hard, it's not demeaning. All you have to do is say you've seen the thread and will not do the things you are asked not to do (namely, try and take over planet Manhattan and hunt Nomads). Refusing to register is a needless rebellion.

Quote:Flip the purpose of your capship list the other way as Snapp suggested and you remove the negative practical consequences of labeling everyone who isn't registered as guilty of something, while still preserving the practical usefulness of the list : identifying people who need to improve. You also get a MUCH shorter list that way, which is far easier to use and manage effectively. It's counterintuitive, but the exercise of less overt control actually leads to better results.

So, you're telling me I should do the thing I most want to avoid, namely, include only people whose RP I feel is substandard? You know what I think that would do? Make them angry at me, the 101st, factions in general, and players who have not been mentioned. Why should we single out people and try and help them when we could simply give them a way to help themselves without shaming them? If they need more than what the thread already offers there are instructions in there to PM me for personal help. That's the most I foresee going in that direction, Xoria, unless, of course, you want me to single out people and make them feel like failures at a game, a place where they come to have fun.

Quote:Yes it is, and you're right : you don't.

No, it's not, and I think you don't get it, sir-it's not a cynical approach. It's an all-inclusive approach. If you already understand you just buy your Destroyer and say you've read the guidelines. If you don't understand it and are new then, by a generalized, all-inclusive process, you have been shown that you need to learn more, and how to go about learning that, without being publicly shamed, as you would have me do.

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Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 12-24-2008, 10:44 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 12-24-2008, 10:47 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Drake - 12-24-2008, 10:49 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Virus - 12-24-2008, 10:51 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by NerdRage - 12-24-2008, 11:14 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Linkus - 12-24-2008, 05:19 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Jihadjoe - 12-24-2008, 05:30 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Grumblesaur - 12-24-2008, 05:34 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cosmos - 12-24-2008, 05:36 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Nevearo - 12-24-2008, 05:40 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by kindred - 12-24-2008, 05:42 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Jihadjoe - 12-24-2008, 05:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-24-2008, 05:50 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by torchwood - 12-24-2008, 05:55 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Drake - 12-24-2008, 06:13 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by stewcool - 12-24-2008, 06:19 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Xing - 12-24-2008, 06:29 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by guitarguy - 12-24-2008, 06:30 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Guest - 12-24-2008, 06:37 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Malaclypse 666 - 12-24-2008, 06:44 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by MB52 - 12-24-2008, 06:49 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 12-24-2008, 07:05 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cellulanus - 12-24-2008, 07:09 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Jihadjoe - 12-24-2008, 07:30 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Magoo! - 12-24-2008, 07:37 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eternal - 12-24-2008, 08:42 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cosmos - 12-24-2008, 08:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Tenacity - 12-24-2008, 10:05 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by n00bl3t - 12-25-2008, 02:00 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cellulanus - 12-25-2008, 02:03 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by n00bl3t - 12-25-2008, 02:29 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-25-2008, 02:30 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by kingvaillant - 12-25-2008, 02:37 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Yuva - 12-25-2008, 05:03 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-25-2008, 05:12 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Caedes - 12-25-2008, 05:29 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Blackstarr - 12-25-2008, 06:01 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Balance - 12-25-2008, 06:28 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Tenacity - 12-25-2008, 06:34 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cellulanus - 12-25-2008, 06:45 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-25-2008, 07:05 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Malexa - 12-25-2008, 08:23 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by ryoken - 12-25-2008, 08:24 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Furball - 12-25-2008, 08:26 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Malexa - 12-25-2008, 08:41 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Drake - 12-25-2008, 08:50 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by tfmachad - 12-25-2008, 09:19 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Patriot - 12-25-2008, 09:23 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-25-2008, 09:23 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by tfmachad - 12-25-2008, 09:28 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Cellulanus - 12-25-2008, 09:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by guitarguy - 12-25-2008, 09:50 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Ash - 12-25-2008, 09:50 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Dusty Lens - 12-25-2008, 09:53 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Markus_Janus - 12-25-2008, 09:56 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Dusty Lens - 12-25-2008, 10:03 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Patriot - 12-25-2008, 10:15 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-25-2008, 10:17 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Linkus - 12-25-2008, 11:30 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by ryoken - 12-25-2008, 11:45 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-26-2008, 12:49 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-26-2008, 01:25 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Caedes - 12-26-2008, 02:12 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Drake - 12-26-2008, 02:14 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by tfmachad - 12-26-2008, 02:26 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Linkus - 12-26-2008, 02:41 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by tfmachad - 12-26-2008, 02:47 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Snapp - 12-26-2008, 04:07 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by n00bl3t - 12-26-2008, 09:41 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Jihadjoe - 12-26-2008, 12:49 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by tansytansey - 12-26-2008, 01:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by swift - 12-26-2008, 01:53 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-26-2008, 01:55 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by swift - 12-26-2008, 01:56 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Panzer - 12-26-2008, 02:08 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Linkus - 12-26-2008, 02:44 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Xoria - 12-26-2008, 04:03 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-26-2008, 04:03 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Linkus - 12-26-2008, 04:21 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-26-2008, 04:37 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Xoria - 12-26-2008, 05:01 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Kambei - 12-26-2008, 05:05 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Xing - 12-26-2008, 05:10 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by swift - 12-26-2008, 05:20 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-26-2008, 05:33 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Patriot - 12-26-2008, 06:03 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Xing - 12-26-2008, 06:07 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by X-Lancer - 12-26-2008, 06:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by teschy - 12-26-2008, 06:48 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Reverend Del - 12-26-2008, 07:00 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Jihadjoe - 12-26-2008, 07:13 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by bluntpencil2001 - 12-26-2008, 07:20 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eppy - 12-26-2008, 07:49 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by kingvaillant - 12-26-2008, 07:59 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Reverend Del - 12-26-2008, 08:00 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Blodo - 12-26-2008, 09:09 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Snapp - 12-26-2008, 09:28 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by n00bl3t - 12-27-2008, 08:57 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by triple88a - 01-12-2009, 07:53 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by kingvaillant - 01-12-2009, 08:17 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by askura - 01-12-2009, 09:16 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by swift - 01-15-2009, 11:52 PM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by n00bl3t - 01-16-2009, 01:23 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by nankura - 01-16-2009, 10:18 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Eternal - 01-16-2009, 11:26 AM
Faction Control of Capital Ships... or... - by Tomtomrawr - 01-16-2009, 12:07 PM

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