New Order/BlackSquadron Role Play Rules

[Tenacity]

Seriously, if I were to pick people to establish a rule, I would pick people that agreed with me the closest, so as to attempt to control the whole situation.

I wouldnt necessarily - I'd pick people with the most varied views and opinions as possible, to get as much of a perspective on a situation as possible.

if you're trying to solve a math problem, you dont want 10 english majors working on it, do you? =P

Personally I think we should go up to 9 council members, with 3-4 of them being from black squadron, and the rest being chose from various independents with different areas of expertise. I've already talked with the leader of this new order group, the 42|, and he's agreed to be one of the council members as long as I can get wolf to agree to it. Now, his entire group is fighter-based, and focuses on reconnaissance RP, which is vastly different than the Bs who represent the order guard, and the other independents who represent the majority of the order's forces (and many of whom are capship fliers).

Decisions are being made among everyone involved, I've even spoken with ryoken about the matter. My current problem is getting everyone on the same page as far as what the council is really meant to do =)

Should the council be made up of people who think Omicron Minor is the only place the Order should be, or should it contain people that aren't afraid to hold events in Liberty?

Both, you cant have a debate, and thus a decision, without having opposing ideas. I never said I think all order players should stick to omicron minor, I just dont like our capships going into new york, as I believe it's both OORP and used as an excuse to pvp whore - however I have no problem whatsoever with fighters/bombers going into new york as long as they keep in-RP - the 42| recon group is a good example of a group I support in undertaking operations into house territory.

You all have your bloc, so Order Independents should be free to have, if they wanted, the most extreme LOLWAT people on the council if they wanted

I'm sorry, but that isnt going to happen. People are being chosen for the council positions based on a few key factors:
1. Consistently following server rules
2. Displaying higher-than-average capability when it comes to in-game RP
3. Leadership over various order groups (Black squadron, the 42nd, stewcool's 122nd, etc.)
4. Types of roles RP'd, to get the greatest variety possible (we want both capship fliers and fighter pilots on the council, as well as people who RP militaristically or covertly - varied opinions is the goal here).

We are not, under any circumstances, going to pick someone for the council who has shown signs of pvp whoring or lack of willingness to RP in the past, and we're definitely not going to choose anyone who abuses our faction ID or ships for pvp purposes alone. We're also looking for leadership qualities, people who cant make a decision and stick to it are not going to be chosen, followers dont get leadership roles.

With it, he will, even if Tenacity ends up with a seat on it (dear god please no).

If you have a personal problem with me, then out with it, I'm tired of your constant referral to me as some sort of plague here when every goddamn thing I do is for the good of the affiliation and, in most cases, the server. I'm sorry if I dont approve of RP-less players, but simple fact of the matter is that they shouldnt be here if they arent going to at least attempt to stay in character, there are still pvp servers running this mod if people really want to play that way.

If you arent going to man up and tell me what your problem with me is, then quit bitching about it.

The whole nomination process is my suggestion leading up to a forum vote

This was my idea at first as well, then I realized "if such nominations and votes are to be made, they need to be made by THE ORDER'S players, not by the rest of the community who arent effected. The problem here is that you cant restrict voting to specific players on the server (meaning order players), and there are too many people here with personal biases against specific players that would throw in their vote just to screw the whole system up. As the others simply put it: it would become a popularity contest, not an accurate election.

That's why this is being handled in private. I will probably be sending out PM's to most order players soon asking for their opinions on who should be on the council, you'll be included remora - put in your nominations, but this will not be held publicly.

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