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Question, traders and pvp
Offline sovereign
12-28-2008, 12:01 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-28-2008, 12:02 AM by sovereign.)
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I lied. I have more than one question. These should be yes or no, if you answer please give yes or no, or terms upon which yes or no. Thank you.


<musing>
Pirate Patty sees Trader Timmy coming along the road (lane, JH, whatever). Pirate Patty, as I understand, is allowed to rip Trader Timmy's shield and hull from him so long as she doesn't kill him before making a demand. So, Pirate Patty flings some pain and gets rid of Timmy's shield. Timmy has had his shield reduced below 50%. If it was Lawman Larry not Trader Timmy, this would be open pvp and they could blow each other up without worry. But it's Trader Timmy. Can Trader Timmy shoot Pirate Patty to death by the rules? Also, as the removal of the shield declares a PvP (as the rules read) wouldn't this mean that Pirate Patty could shoot back if Trader Timmy shoots her below 50% of her own shield?
</musing>


Assume for all of these that engagement rules are followed (saying stuff, not shield-running, etc) but that no demand is given unless specifically stated. Levels of complication vary wildly, some should be very obvious (but still clarified just in case) and some may be... problematic.


1) Pirate Patty gets Trader Timmy's shield below half (legal, as I understand), then Trader Timmy responds by shooting Pirate Patty's shield below half (also legal, as I understand), then can Pirate Patty kill Trader Timmy?

2) Trader Timmy sees Pirate Patty along and assumes that Pirate Patty will start flinging lasers into him, and takes Pirate Patty's shields below half.
2A) Trader Timmy manages to kill Pirate Patty before Pirate Patty gets Trader Timmy's shield to half. Who can be sanctioned, if anyone?
2B) Trader Timmy manages to kill Pirate Patty, but Pirate Patty gets Trader Timmy's shield to half. Who can be sanctioned, if anyone?
2C) Pirate Patty manages to kill Trader Timmy after he shoots her shields below half. Who can be sanctioned, if anyone?

3) Pirate Patty gets Trader Timmy's shields below half, and Trader Timmy gets Pirate Patty's shields below half. Trader Timmy runs away to a base and docks. He undocks, and sees that Pirate Patty is still there.
3A) Can Pirate Patty shoot Trader Timmy to death?
3B) Can Trader Timmy shoot Pirate Patty to death?

4) Trader Timmy shoots Pirate Patty's shields below half. Trader Timmy and Pirate Patty start fighting. Pirate-Cruiser Bobby is not grouped with Pirate Patty, but bears the same ID/IFF. Pirate-Cruiser Bobby was not close enough to Trader Timmy for him to be considered when Trader Timmy decides to fight. He is also unaware of how the engagement started unless specified otherwise.
4A) Pirate Patty has not yet gotten Trader Timmy's shields below half, when Pirate-Cruiser Bobby chances by and notices that Pirate Patty is losing. If Pirate-Cruiser Bobby shoots at Trader Timmy in defense of Pirate Patty, can he be sanctioned?
4B) 4A, but Pirate Patty mentions that Trader Timmy shot first before Bobby opens fire.
4C) 4B, but Trader Timmy confirms it.
4D) 4A, but Pirate Patty has gotten Trader Timmy's shields below half before Bobby shows up.
4E) 4D, but Pirate Patty mentions that Trader Timmy shot first before Bobby opens fire.
4F) 4E, but Trader Timmy confirms it.
4G) 4F, but Pirate Patty gave a demand before Trader Timmy opened fire the first time.



Thank you.

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Messages In This Thread
Question, traders and pvp - by sovereign - 12-28-2008, 12:01 AM
Question, traders and pvp - by Unseelie - 12-28-2008, 12:08 AM
Question, traders and pvp - by swift - 12-28-2008, 12:22 AM
Question, traders and pvp - by Reverend Del - 12-28-2008, 01:12 AM
Question, traders and pvp - by Unseelie - 12-28-2008, 01:17 AM
Question, traders and pvp - by AdamantineFist - 12-28-2008, 01:28 AM
Question, traders and pvp - by Grimly - 12-28-2008, 01:34 AM
Question, traders and pvp - by Kambei - 12-28-2008, 07:54 PM
Question, traders and pvp - by sovereign - 12-28-2008, 08:31 PM
Question, traders and pvp - by Grimly - 12-28-2008, 10:35 PM
Question, traders and pvp - by gafwmn - 12-28-2008, 10:48 PM
Question, traders and pvp - by masterflak - 12-28-2008, 10:58 PM
Question, traders and pvp - by Agmen of Eladesor - 12-28-2008, 11:58 PM
Question, traders and pvp - by Dusty Lens - 12-30-2008, 01:00 PM
Question, traders and pvp - by Weedalot - 12-30-2008, 01:37 PM
Question, traders and pvp - by MrCynical - 12-30-2008, 04:00 PM
Question, traders and pvp - by swift - 12-30-2008, 04:02 PM

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