Quote:What kind of assurances do we order independants have that it was done fairly and right then, instead of secretly selected with our votes thrown out?
You dont, and neither do I. All I know is that a vote is going to be done, nobody's said anything more to me, black squadron has stopped giving me any information and the admins are keeping silent on everything regarding this. Frustrating eh?
Quote:Shouldn't the independants decide how the independants choose to decide how the independants are chosen? Who is denying us that right!
Certainly isnt me, no matter how much i want on the council (because I do think I've earned it, even though I rather hate the whole change in command in general), I havent been told a damn thing since a few days ago.
Quote:Okay, that sounds a little rediculious to me too, but the point is, whose hands is the voting proccess in? Are those hands trustworthy? What are the plans for those hands to prove that the outcome was legitimate?
I think the admins intend to be the third party to handle this, but they're about as unbiased as the rest of us. Frankly, I know that most of the admins hate my guts =P
Quote:Apart from that, what is wrong with the Zoner council structure?
RP. The zoners really dont have a command structure, government, or laws - they're a bunch of independently owned ships whose only linking quality is the fact that they all call themselves zoners.
See, the zoner council works because it's an anarchist group, the decisions made by that council, in-RP, really have no effect on any zoners at all except for the groups controlling each freeport or zoner planet.
The difference here is that the order is a military organization, it has a defined ranking system and command structure. Now, while that apparently ticks off a lot of players who say "you aint the boss of me!", that's how it has to be handled to maintain... well, order.
In the US army, nobody gives a damn about the comments or opinions of a fresh recruit. Hell, even people who have been serving in the US military for ten years have little to no say in what the army decides to do. There's ranks, and each rank is overruled by another rank all the way up to the department of defense and US government.
See, if we handled this the way it SHOULD be handled (even though I dont entirely agree with it), any order pilot who disobeyed orders from a superior officer (which, as far as rp has been established, would ultimately lead up to the black squadron admirals) would be thrown in the brig and probably executed for treason. Of course, that would make this server much less fun for a lot of people, but there still needs to be some semblence of rank and command or we end up looking like the corsairs, zoners, and outcasts.