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Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons.
Offline Grumblesaur
01-04-2009, 08:45 AM,
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' Wrote:Taking into consideration the size of the bomber, the SNAC is overpowered. Imo. The only reason the SNAC packs the power it does is to level the playing field against capships. People who are unwilling to pilot a capship for one reason or another want to be able to wield some devastating firepower on their own terms. The SNAC gives them that opportunity.

The game engine doesn't take overall energy consumption into account. We "know" that all ships have a finite energy supply. They burn fuel and use energy-based weapons. Fortunately, gameplay overrides reality in this situation.

If the game engine could take the energy consumption factor into account, a bomber would probably be able to fire the SNAC three times. After that the ship would be floating in space, without power. But this is just my speculation.

I wonder what would happen if the next mod converted the SNAC into a munitions-based weapon system, with the same stats but with some slight tracking ability? Would there be more or fewer bomber pilots?

Things that make you go "hmmmmmmmm".

As for the power, all ships regenerate. it's the extra power that isn't being used to fly the ship. Bombers can choose between the godawfully slow Nova Torpedo, which often involves killing oneself to use, and the Supernova, which is a bit overpowered for it's size, in my opinion.

As for the shaking that was brought up, it is awful. Being hit with anything over 2.00 refire will make it impossible to track anything.

Quote:one must not compare powerplants of each shipclasses. - they are not balanced against each other - but only balanced within. ( thats why the battlecruiser class is somewht problematic ) - you must measure percentages of what a weapon takes and how much damage is dealt for the percentage. - then you have to check how much time is needed to replenish the energy that was needed to do that damage.
Tenacity posted something along the lines of this, but not to the point of fully involving refire.

Quote:For the love of god, just wait for 4.85. And don't tell me you've waited enough, 4.85 will come eventually. Mkay? Mkay.

For the love of god, give us a straight answer. Would you leave your fellow man in the dark?

Quote:perhaps a more realistic system would be to make Battleships patheticly slow, make SN's much much weaker, but make the Battleships weapons too slow to ever hope to hit anything smaller than a gunboat (low retfire) and low shield recharge, battles would last longer (especialy with bs vs bs), but people would say its boring, and so its fine as it is.

Battleships already are pathetically slow. They have an impulse of 90 and no thrust. Making the weapons too show will only throw this into a cataclysmic unbalance and render battleships nothing more than RP ships.

I'm not talking about a full nerf here, maybe knock 10,000 damage off the SN or an extra 20,000 on the light mortar.

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Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-03-2009, 06:37 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Tenacity - 01-03-2009, 06:42 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-03-2009, 06:45 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Dab - 01-03-2009, 06:49 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Tenacity - 01-03-2009, 06:57 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-03-2009, 07:00 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Dab - 01-03-2009, 07:19 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-03-2009, 07:27 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Tenacity - 01-03-2009, 07:28 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Dab - 01-03-2009, 07:41 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Guest - 01-03-2009, 07:58 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-03-2009, 08:24 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Tenacity - 01-03-2009, 08:46 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-03-2009, 08:52 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Guest - 01-03-2009, 09:13 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Kambei - 01-03-2009, 10:42 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Tenacity - 01-03-2009, 10:43 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Kambei - 01-03-2009, 10:45 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Tenacity - 01-03-2009, 10:51 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Blackvertigo1 - 01-03-2009, 10:58 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Kambei - 01-03-2009, 11:17 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by NonSequitor - 01-03-2009, 02:42 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Saigo.Watanabe - 01-03-2009, 02:46 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Nightwind - 01-03-2009, 03:01 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Jinx - 01-03-2009, 03:08 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Nightwind - 01-03-2009, 03:49 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Jinx - 01-03-2009, 04:01 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Nightwind - 01-03-2009, 04:05 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Etaphreven - 01-03-2009, 04:09 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Nightwind - 01-03-2009, 04:10 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Eternal - 01-03-2009, 04:42 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Nightwind - 01-03-2009, 05:34 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Markam - 01-03-2009, 11:17 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Hades - 01-04-2009, 02:18 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-04-2009, 08:45 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Tenacity - 01-04-2009, 09:15 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-04-2009, 09:44 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Kambei - 01-04-2009, 11:17 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by NonSequitor - 01-04-2009, 01:30 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Kambei - 01-04-2009, 01:56 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Zeltak - 01-04-2009, 02:14 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-04-2009, 11:41 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by El Nino - 01-05-2009, 01:15 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-06-2009, 12:12 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Elvin - 01-06-2009, 09:09 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Tenacity - 01-06-2009, 10:27 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Muleo - 01-06-2009, 04:27 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Dusty Lens - 01-06-2009, 04:38 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by swift - 01-06-2009, 04:39 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Zeltak - 01-06-2009, 04:42 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Kambei - 01-06-2009, 04:45 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by gekerd - 01-06-2009, 05:08 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-06-2009, 10:43 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Varyag - 01-06-2009, 11:03 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Jamez - 01-06-2009, 11:07 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by El Nino - 01-06-2009, 11:15 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-06-2009, 11:23 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Kambei - 01-07-2009, 12:03 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 01-07-2009, 03:49 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by SevereTrinity - 01-07-2009, 02:37 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by swift - 01-07-2009, 02:44 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-07-2009, 11:29 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Derkylos - 01-08-2009, 12:14 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Ocampo - 01-08-2009, 03:44 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Ocampo - 01-08-2009, 03:48 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Tenacity - 01-08-2009, 04:01 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Ocampo - 01-08-2009, 04:06 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by JakeSG - 01-08-2009, 04:17 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Mercenary Guild - 01-08-2009, 06:07 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Tenacity - 01-08-2009, 06:28 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by El Nino - 01-08-2009, 02:56 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grumblesaur - 01-08-2009, 11:24 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grimly - 01-11-2009, 01:26 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Jinx - 01-11-2009, 01:51 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Grimly - 01-11-2009, 02:49 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Nightwind - 01-11-2009, 03:04 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by swift - 01-11-2009, 03:20 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by gekerd - 01-11-2009, 05:08 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Derkylos - 01-11-2009, 11:21 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Kambei - 01-11-2009, 11:33 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by El Nino - 01-12-2009, 12:04 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by looqas - 01-15-2009, 02:56 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by El Nino - 01-15-2009, 03:33 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by johnpeter - 01-15-2009, 03:54 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Jamo128 - 01-16-2009, 11:56 AM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by SevereTrinity - 01-16-2009, 12:00 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Varyag - 01-16-2009, 06:18 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by El Nino - 01-16-2009, 07:26 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Kambei - 01-16-2009, 07:32 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Varyag - 01-16-2009, 07:50 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by SevereTrinity - 01-16-2009, 08:18 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Varyag - 01-16-2009, 09:11 PM
Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons. - by Kambei - 01-16-2009, 10:56 PM

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