Missiles everywhere!

[Dab]

well - alright, i gotto admit, i had .... let me try to remember......... zero pvps with "jinx" in the last 5 months.

but i have been fighting opponents with missiles and sunslayer as a BHG. - and when all my equipment got ripped apart - it wasn t the opponents fault to mount and use the sunslayer and cannonballs + paralyzer... it was my fault that i wasn t flexible enough to do anything but joust.

i had ( some time ago ) a fight on Clover against a BAF challenger. - i had 4 debs and 1 firestalker + 1 cannonball mounted ( a standard loadout for me sort of ) ..... i easily drained the slow fighters shields... but had no chance hitting him, cause he started to dodge.

now, i agree - the bad part is.... if i had forced to fight it to the end, this fight would have lasted for a long long time, cause he could have dodged leaving little time to use hte missiles ( my only way to damage his hull ... and i was in a chimera at that time ) .... i easily outturned him, but firing the missiles into his back was a waste of ammo..

so after about 10 min and a few unlucky shots - i simply retreated. - no point fighting such a battle to the end... and a fight were no one dies is still not a lost fight.
i DO think that the use of any weapons loadouts - no matter how extreme it might be ( like 6 cannonballs as a support ship or whatever strange things you may see ) is OK. - in certain situations it may be annoying or even vexing to fight such an opponent - but then.... i d say, this person has just had the good fortune to come with a very efficient loadout.

i would never dream of yelling at a player that used all missiles ( even if i wasn t doing the same thing anyway ) --- but then, i do retreat quite quickly, too - and i hardly ever let a battle last longer than 20 minutes.

the question is - where does it end. - personally, i have a much greater problem with bombers mounting 4 heavy codenames or 4 coladas. ( problem in terms of.... it causes me problems in a fight )
edit:

@Dab: would it be OK then to use 6 missiles in 4.85 - where all ships are equally vulnerable? or to use 6 missiles in a vanilla fighter vs. a non vanilla fighter - is that OK?

To the last;
Yes, completely okay because doing so won't give anyone an unfair advantage due to modding mishaps. Everyone is equally vulnerable to that weaponry.

And your Chimaera fight, first 2 missiles is fine. And further, your in a vanilla fighter. (Isn't pure vanilla, but its a vanilla model with different stats, still missile-vulnerable though.) My ONLY issue is with non-vanilla fighters packing 3+ missiles/torps and spamming those along with mines at non-vanilla fighters. Because assuming I could CD his missiles/mines at him, an explosion that would kill me only scratches him. Thats what makes it unfair. If this game were real, both ships would be equally vulnerable, with the only difference being how much anti-explosive armoring one had, which would have drawbacks of its own. But here in the game, they are NOT equally vulnerable, and its not because of engineering or anything, but because we didn't have the ability to wireframe those ships and give them the same vulnerability as the vanilla ones. And their defense against explosives has no drawback.

Thats why it is unfair, because they have an unjustifiable advantage that is not backed by reason, and people seek to abuse that advantage for their own gain by missile spamming fighters who don't have that advantage. And this advantage creates a huge gap between the two sets of ships, and nothing is in place to equalize them.

Once the vulnerability is removed and everyone is equal, missiles will be nothing different from conventional weaponry, equal to everyone, and then it won't care what set of missiles or how many you use.


EDIT:

Hell Dab Ive got loads of vanilla fighters carrying missiles, Eagle, Sabre Guardian etc. I know your not having a go at ppl flying these ships, but its not a players fault if he brings a non vanilla fighter with missiles, it's the mods, and it's soon to change so we all win.

Its the player's fault when he intentionally does it just to use the unfair advantage it gives him.

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