Cap vs. Fighter/Bomber weapons.

[El Nino]

I know it's already balanced. But I get sick seeing all capwhores writing here cause they think a bomber can not have any chance to blow a bigger ship. If they may not, why the hell did we made the bombers ?

This is absoluteley true, Taking on a cruiser in a bomber is impossible at best. If the cruiser pilot knows what he's doing then the bomber no mattter how good had no chance...

And when it comes down to even gunboats, I can quite often fend of 3 to sometimes even 4 bombers coming at me... at such odds it is not hard to flee, and at other times even win. What you however need is skill,...

Now imagine we made a ship that a novice player could fly well aganist bombers... what kind of hell would an experienced pilot make with that ship? What is great about Discovery balance, is how skill brings a lot to the table.

This is especialy true for fighters and bombers. It is quite obvious a cruiser will have a very hard time against a battleship. But no matter how unbalanced cruiser vs bomber weapons may seem to the original author, Cruisers can take out a battleship easier than bombers... Hell even gunboats can take out a battleship easier than bombers... And when fighthing against a cruiser i am rather in a gunboat than in a bomber. Likewise when taking out a battleship a cruiser does come in handy.

You do have to understand some basic principles when fighting in a capital ship. Your position is important, you have to know your exit strategy. If you don't you may find yourself in a combat that you cannot flee from. In a fighter that is not a problem, you can dodge and thrust away forever... In a cap you may not. So you have to think ahead.

Anyone interested in cap training contact me on my PM:D...

also some things were unbalanced and were fixed. That is still true. Taking out a cruiser with a gunboat no matter who pilots the cruiser, will never be balanced. So that was fixed.

In general powertrading to get your 200mil and buying a cruiser and some armor will not make you invincible... it will rather make you very very vulnerable. Start from the basics HF->VHF->Bomber->Gunboat->Cruiser->Battleship in this progression you will get your cap as a well rounded pilot. They don't give fleet ships to novice commanders. They give them to pilots with 20 or 30 years of experience. You might want to try some battle training before buying;)...

Anyhow I'll pay 10M credits to the first bomber that can solo one of my 2 caps...

I also agree with Jinx it is very foolish to compare cap and fighter weapons. Like bricks and logs... That's how it is, a heavy bomber can over a period of time dish out 7642 damage per second with it's supernova. A proper gunboat deals 3x more damage... cruisers even more... so that is 3821 shield damage per second... All you have to do is dodge every second SN and you are invincible in a gunboat, all you have to dodge in a cruiser is every fifth or so... in a Battleship, you can laugh at the bomber without dodging at all. He cannot move your shield with that SN no matter how hard the poor sucker tries to solo you. With most efficient guns a bomber can at best deal about 6.6k of shield damage.. but who can't hit a bomber that is laying down all his power on to you at 500 m? you have 1600m/s weapons for gods sake... So in theory caps are very hard to take out by a single bomber.

Let's take on 2 bombers... 7642 shield damage per second... now this is better, with a gunboat you have to dodge 3/4 of SN's and cruiser? 1/2 Even your battleship will take a beating unless you dodge about 1/4 SN's.

3 bombers you say? that's a pain to dodge 5/6 SN's Cruiser 2/3.. battleship 1/3 ...

You must know your limits, if your limit is 1 bomber, and you are in a cruiser, you will find yourself very soon at the invincible level for one bomber... even for two.. that's not to hard... Naturaly some bomber pilots will aim their SN's better at you. So make it first hard for them to fire, then hard for them to hit, and finaly make it hard for them to even start their run...

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