"New faction creation process and representation" discussion thread.

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Could we not try to limit official House navies / police factions to one faction per npc faction, and instead of a "council" of factions all with the same npc tag, have a "council" composed of the police, military, corporations etc. of a particular House (e.g. faction leaders of BPA, BAF, BMM and Bowex work together to coordinate general Bretonian RP - actually this already happens, and makes sense as "Liberty" or "Bretonia" ought to have common policies, not have a LN council voting one thing and an LPI council deciding something else).

However, I also agree with the already stated consensus that trying to make such things official and admin supervised is totally unneccessary. I mean, come on people - this debate was started by a general consensus that the rules were too complex and restrictive and that official factions needed to be given more "power" (undefined) - now people are suggesting we make the rules more complex, add in these official councils, regulate and oversee their meetings, hold votes, etc. constantly requiring all representatives of the factions and admins to be present at the same time and always on hand to carry out decision making, whilst effectively undermining the control of factions such as the House Navies over their npc factions.

The current system is seriously not all that bad - yes official factions should coordinate their RP more, but Zoner Council, Council of Dons, Elders, Bretonian Government, etc. etc. already exist, factions are working together and all we really need to do is allow them a little more flexibility to conduct RP, enforce good RP on indies and work more cooperatively with unofficial groups and indies. I'm all in favour of reforming the application system, to be sure, but we don't need an admin sactioned official "council" structure regulatory body. It is unneccessary and I suspect it will prove innefficient and ultimately fail.

There should be more cooperation among official and unofficial groups (led and directed by the official groups), but this should be done on a consentual and case-by-case basis. Houses should coordinate all their factions into governments. Corsair, Outcast, Zoner and Junker factions should coordinate their RP. Some groups like IMG don't really need to coordinate with anybody - there is no need to enforce a blanket "All factions form councils or be sanctioned" rule. It will make things worse, not better.

I agree on the Military and the Police factions, trying to have a dozen different wings of the Military or different Precincts to agree on one thing is ridiculous.

House police and Military should be one faction per NPC faction. As it stands now, Liberty has 2 Navies, and there is no need for that.

I also agree that the council should be a house council, I.E. Liberties NPC faction leaders get together and work out Liberties Rp.

Currently Liberty has high command chat that has the LPI leader and his lieutenants, The ln leader and his lieutenants, and the LSF leader and his. It would be easy to expand that into a council by starting another chat and adding Synth Foods, Ageira, DSE, Universal, Xenos, LR, and the lane hackers.

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