Liberty Navy [LN] Feedback Thread

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I have been playing a few characters in Liberty for a little while now and its the first time I have ever had ones that interacted on a regular basis with the Navy and Police. At the outset, I hadn't settled on final names for the chars and ships so I had the perspective of being several "different" people and as a result want to give some specific (but nameless) feedback.

Overall I think you are doing a good job. I have a little trouble with all the acronymage...LN, LNS, LNGS, LNF, LNX, etc., etc. but that's other players in that issue.

Here are the things I am seeing that bother me--and I mean really are bothering me. Mostly it is personality/maturity differences and it is isolated mostly but regular enough to be a problem. It doesn't reflect overall play of the faction as a whole but it does impact it.

Number one gripe on the list...hands down...players in the LN "helping their friends". On occasion I'll note two players who know one another (you hang there long enough and can catch enough snatches of chat to start seeing some know each other and pm a lot). I don't have a problem with transfers of cash or gear but I mean showing favoritism. Some examples.

Criminal/terrorist player in a gunboat/bomber (who is friends with an LN) is attacking a trading player (or other type for that matter). LN friend happens to come through lane and stumbles right into attack and it goes like this (as the attacked trader asks for help):

SCENE: West Point (or any place in New York).

Trader: "Ah! Help!"
Criminal: "You should have paid trader scum!" *BOOM! BOOM!*
Trader: *Crunching sounds as pieces of his ship break off*
Officer: "Uh..what's going on here?"
Criminal: *BOOM! BOOM!*
Trader: "AH! HELP!"
Trader: *CRUNCH* *SHRED*
Officer: "Hmm...you need to move on rogue. I don't want to have to destroy you."
Trader: "Argh--he's killing me,! HELLLLP!"
Criminal: "Haha! That'll teach ya respect dog!"
Officer: "Ummm..."
Trader: "SHOOT HIM I'M ABOUT TO DIE!"
Officer: "Uh..yeah..bad guy..please stop before I fire.
Trader: *Bright flash and explosion as ship vaporises with criminals sounds of tractor beam*
Officer: OK...this is your final warning."
Criminal: "OK, I'm leaving."

This is pretty much a situation I witnessed three times the past three days and after two of them, the criminal and officer had a pleasant chat with one another before the criminal found another trader in Liberty to engage elsewhere. No exaggeration here.

Next issue is Zone-21. I've seen one instance of a LN officer helping a non LSF/LN/LP player harvest Nomads. I have seen LN players completely ignore an Outcast, Xeno and a Corsair sailing right by them within Alaska system as they passed on to New York to raid.

Harassing level of role play. "Stop! What ya got in there trader? Hang on--let me look. Hmmm..I need to detain you for paperwork. What's that? It's not my fault you are hostile to the Navy right now because of your CD. You still need to wait here while I check your paperwork. Can't help you with the battlegroup that just spawned on top of you and if you run we will engage you." (Ok--that is a factitious rendition but I have actually been in and seen that situation--just not with the specific dialogue.)

Several times, LN officers have been seen stopping a trader or non-criminal for "routine checks" and continue to detain them even as criminal ships pass by on the way to loot another victim in the system.

Finally, its rare now (as far as I have seen) but still a little "bullying" as in: Halt! Bump your ship, cd you, train guns on you and then "Where are you going?" to provoke a response so they can engage (I've seen this mostly with gunboat players.

Get the picture? These add up to "What the heck sort of security force is this? Its especially annoying (and unfair) when its compounded by the *wink-wink, I know you bad guy*.

The Navy (seriously) should have a PRIORITY of protecting civilian life and lawful trade within Liberty.

Otherwise, seeing a lot more maturity and good leadership.

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