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Bomber Balance
Offline Dab
03-08-2009, 10:30 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-08-2009, 11:34 PM by Dab.)
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EDIT: No means get rid of the 48/58K bombers, and make them the same type of bomber as everyone else's. Yes means keep the Ku and BD Bombers the same as they have been.

Alright, we just got done dealing with a extremely-long version (4.84) in which we had a big problem concerning two bombers; Kusari Catamaran and Red Catamaran. Both were 48K energy core bombers with the agility of a VHF. In some cases, agility higher than that of a VHF. Now both of these bombers were given new models which make them larger from the side, but the same size from above/below/front/back. Furthermore, they were changed to 58K energy to make up for that larger model.

Now in some ways that may seems like a logical thing to do since they are easier to hit.. But those who had to fight them know that they needed downgraded, not just changed. Ku and Red Cat both. Now they have the ability to fire even more often, and are now just as deadly as before to all ship classes.

The idea behind these bombers was to have extra agility on low-armor bombers for quick strikes on capships, while the bigger ones had more energy to do more damage and handle more damage. While this was a good idea, in theory, it has turned out very very badly, and the BD and Ku Bombers are now the most despised bombers in the mod.

The turning rates on these ships have not been changed. They are the most agile bombers, up to the point of VHF turning, as they were before. Now this would be fine because of the lower armor, except for the fact that these bombers can instantly kill any fighter or other bomber with a single shot, that of a Supernova. And they have the agility to accomplish that with ease. All the fighters are forced to joust them because they cannot outturn them and stay behind. In every other case concerning a bomber vs fighter fight, those fighters can get behind the bomber and avoid jousting. With these two bombers, thats impossible.

So my question is; Should we have these VHF and Bomber-killing bombers which are also extremely deadly to all capships, and generally kill anything they come across, especially with certain loadouts? Or should these two bombers be made more in-line with other bombers of this mod?

As far as I'm concerned, we've had enough problems with these two bombers and balancing them with the rest of the mod. They're fighters who can SN. Changing them into traditional bombers would not require any changes to their model or hitbox, simply their energy core size, agility, and turn rate. Things easily changed. Balance in this mod can't exist when bombers of this type exist, and we'll continue to see Mercenaries using BD and Ku Bombers in places such as New York, Rheinland, and Bretonia, looking for nothing but the easy kill message.

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Bomber Balance - by Dab - 03-08-2009, 10:30 PM
Bomber Balance - by Derkylos - 03-08-2009, 10:44 PM
Bomber Balance - by Doom - 03-08-2009, 10:48 PM
Bomber Balance - by Grumblesaur - 03-08-2009, 11:01 PM
Bomber Balance - by Orin - 03-08-2009, 11:02 PM
Bomber Balance - by Gamazson - 03-08-2009, 11:11 PM
Bomber Balance - by Drake - 03-08-2009, 11:21 PM
Bomber Balance - by McNeo - 03-08-2009, 11:34 PM
Bomber Balance - by Dab - 03-08-2009, 11:37 PM
Bomber Balance - by McNeo - 03-08-2009, 11:42 PM
Bomber Balance - by Sand-Viper - 03-08-2009, 11:44 PM
Bomber Balance - by Kambei - 03-08-2009, 11:58 PM
Bomber Balance - by Dab - 03-09-2009, 12:01 AM
Bomber Balance - by mjolnir - 03-09-2009, 12:05 AM
Bomber Balance - by Kubotan - 03-09-2009, 12:22 AM
Bomber Balance - by Dab - 03-09-2009, 12:37 AM
Bomber Balance - by Kubotan - 03-09-2009, 12:47 AM
Bomber Balance - by Grumblesaur - 03-09-2009, 12:48 AM
Bomber Balance - by mjolnir - 03-09-2009, 12:54 AM
Bomber Balance - by Markam - 03-09-2009, 12:59 AM
Bomber Balance - by Enko - 03-09-2009, 01:01 AM
Bomber Balance - by Derkylos - 03-09-2009, 01:03 AM
Bomber Balance - by El Nino - 03-09-2009, 01:11 AM
Bomber Balance - by mjolnir - 03-09-2009, 01:14 AM
Bomber Balance - by Kubotan - 03-09-2009, 01:15 AM
Bomber Balance - by Grumblesaur - 03-09-2009, 01:15 AM
Bomber Balance - by Jinx - 03-09-2009, 01:17 AM
Bomber Balance - by El Nino - 03-09-2009, 01:22 AM
Bomber Balance - by Benjamin - 03-09-2009, 01:27 AM
Bomber Balance - by Kambei - 03-09-2009, 01:33 AM
Bomber Balance - by Orin - 03-09-2009, 02:16 AM
Bomber Balance - by Dab - 03-09-2009, 02:26 AM
Bomber Balance - by Orin - 03-09-2009, 02:35 AM
Bomber Balance - by Grimly - 03-15-2009, 11:31 AM

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