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Bomber Balance
Offline Dab
03-09-2009, 12:37 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-09-2009, 12:38 AM by Dab.)
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First; The removal of fighter weapons and use of bomber-specific would be best. Because even with level 8 and 9 guns, they could still use Adv. and Imp. Debs and take out a fighter shield on a single pass.

Second; The GC bomber is NOT faster than the Kusari Bomber. Not even close. I can bring in Enko who was flying the GC Bomber during that fight. He had no chance because he was being outturned everytime, and the bomber is huge. Refer to the post I just put up about GC and FA bombers.

Also, I was able to drop your hull because I flew around until you engine killed, shot before you could SN me, then turned away. My shield was lowered more than the bomber's was because everytime I fired on it, I lost my shield since he was already turned around by the time I was. This has nothing to do with the razor. If I was angry about that, I'd be calling for an MR nerf, but I'm not. They're fine. The SNing ability is what the problem is, and the agility of the Ku and Dragon bombers. This is something I said since 4.84. I was under the impression that it was fixed for .85, and it has turned out not to be.

The Falcata is much larger than the Ku and BD Cats from any direction you look at it. Its not a 'light' bomber. It turns better than many, but its also very large and an easy target. However, I'd agree on it being a bit too good, especially at SNing fighters. Furthermore, the new Ku/BD Bomber is just as small from the front as the old. From the front it is NOT bigger. From the top, its actually smaller, because the wide engines that make it the same as old are only at the very back. The front 75% is thinner than the old bomber. This is shown in the picture you posted. Also, while you are there, compare to the GC Bomber. The bomber that is 3 times the size from the top, twice from the front and back. Equal only on the side.

And yes, we have at least 3 weeks.. Why not start discussing it immediately instead of waiting for the last minute?

Now you keep citing numbers of turning rads.. But have you even tested them in-game effectively? Because the GC Bomber doesn't turn anywhere close to the Ku and BD bombers. You state it turns twice as fast, when in reality it turns slower, and even gets close to the GC HF's turning. Even the GC HF barely turns any faster than the Ku Bomber. Its such a small difference that you can't use it, because the bomber is turned around by the time you can fire on it. On top of that, from the front, the Ku Bomber is just as small as the GC HF, and can SN easily.

And Kubotan, about my 'flaw,' when else was I supposed to post it? Should I post BEFORE I can test the two ships against each other? Should I fight, then wait a week? Even if I had won that fight, I was still going to post this. People post about the balance issues when they are fresh in their minds and after they have a chance to test the ships against each other.

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Bomber Balance - by Dab - 03-08-2009, 10:30 PM
Bomber Balance - by Derkylos - 03-08-2009, 10:44 PM
Bomber Balance - by Doom - 03-08-2009, 10:48 PM
Bomber Balance - by Grumblesaur - 03-08-2009, 11:01 PM
Bomber Balance - by Orin - 03-08-2009, 11:02 PM
Bomber Balance - by Gamazson - 03-08-2009, 11:11 PM
Bomber Balance - by Drake - 03-08-2009, 11:21 PM
Bomber Balance - by McNeo - 03-08-2009, 11:34 PM
Bomber Balance - by Dab - 03-08-2009, 11:37 PM
Bomber Balance - by McNeo - 03-08-2009, 11:42 PM
Bomber Balance - by Sand-Viper - 03-08-2009, 11:44 PM
Bomber Balance - by Kambei - 03-08-2009, 11:58 PM
Bomber Balance - by Dab - 03-09-2009, 12:01 AM
Bomber Balance - by mjolnir - 03-09-2009, 12:05 AM
Bomber Balance - by Kubotan - 03-09-2009, 12:22 AM
Bomber Balance - by Dab - 03-09-2009, 12:37 AM
Bomber Balance - by Kubotan - 03-09-2009, 12:47 AM
Bomber Balance - by Grumblesaur - 03-09-2009, 12:48 AM
Bomber Balance - by mjolnir - 03-09-2009, 12:54 AM
Bomber Balance - by Markam - 03-09-2009, 12:59 AM
Bomber Balance - by Enko - 03-09-2009, 01:01 AM
Bomber Balance - by Derkylos - 03-09-2009, 01:03 AM
Bomber Balance - by El Nino - 03-09-2009, 01:11 AM
Bomber Balance - by mjolnir - 03-09-2009, 01:14 AM
Bomber Balance - by Kubotan - 03-09-2009, 01:15 AM
Bomber Balance - by Grumblesaur - 03-09-2009, 01:15 AM
Bomber Balance - by Jinx - 03-09-2009, 01:17 AM
Bomber Balance - by El Nino - 03-09-2009, 01:22 AM
Bomber Balance - by Benjamin - 03-09-2009, 01:27 AM
Bomber Balance - by Kambei - 03-09-2009, 01:33 AM
Bomber Balance - by Orin - 03-09-2009, 02:16 AM
Bomber Balance - by Dab - 03-09-2009, 02:26 AM
Bomber Balance - by Orin - 03-09-2009, 02:35 AM
Bomber Balance - by Grimly - 03-15-2009, 11:31 AM

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