Capital Ship Point Defense

[Tenacity]

By the way, capital ships like the Carrier and Juggernaut are RP platforms, if anything else. The Juggernaut is used for defense of Zoner bases and the Carrier is centered around fighters.

So, the carrier is centered around fighters?

I ask once again, where are these swarms of fighters I'm supposed to be able to launch? What's that, game mechanics? Oh noes, game mechanics are preventing a ship from fulfilling it's purpose!

Please, take off the blindfold. This has been pointed out dozens upon dozens of times, carriers do not have the actual ability to launch or hold fighters, and because of that mechanical restriction they -must- be balanced as if they werent carriers at all. The liberty carrier is balanced like a dreadnaught, the order carrier is balanced like a battlecruiser (though, once again, it's twice the size of all other battlecruisers, and before beta 3 was out it had less armor than all of the others, and it also does not have any battleship turrets like all of the other BC's have).

Now, if the devs could figure out how to make carriers launch NPC fighters and bombers to attack the enemy, THEN it might be ok to have them slightly weaker than other caps, because those NPCs they launch would take up the slack. However, until that feature is added (which will likely never happen), you cannot base balance of a ship around something it cannot do, no matter if it's intended to be able to do that or not.

You don't like the lack of escorts, recruit people or join another faction.

And now you're telling me that I just spent 600 million credits on a ship that isnt doing what it's supposed to and the only solution is to JOIN A DIFFERENT FACTION?

Please, shovel over the credits if you feel that way, apparently you're richer than I.

EDIT:

All I ask is for some point defense capability that actually convicnes bombers and fighters to stay at range, so I have some chance of avoiding their supernovas and nova torps.

I have spoken to jinx quite a bit about this in the past few days, and really the ultimate problem right now is that the carrier, and battlecruisers in general, do not have their own weapon or shield class. For their intended purposes, they have underpowered shields and weaponry, it's a cross between a cruiser and a battleship with none of the advantages of either group.

The biggest issue with the carrier is... it's big. It is too large for solaris turrets to be effective - if I put a solaris turret at the rear of my ship, it cant fire to the front of my ship, due to ship length. If I put them at the front, same deal, cant fire to the rear. If I put them in the middle of the ship, the effective range of the turret when firing forward or backward is only about 300-400 meters, tops.

Problem is, if we buff solaris turrets for battlecruisers (carrier in particular, the other BC's are half it's size), then they become overpowered for small cruisers. That's where the issue with not having battlecruiser-specific weaponry comes in, you either underpower battlecruisers or overpower cruisers by trying to balance for one or the other, you cant find a crossroads that makes them both effective.

There's no easy solution in my particular case right now, unfortunately - but I do feel that, even on some smaller cruisers, point defense weapons are not doing their jobs.

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