Black and White, Alliances

[Dab]

tbh - Hessians should shoot any outcast on sight for their relations with nomads.

The OC - Nomad relations aren't widespread or public. Furthermore, the OC have been distancing themselves rather forcefully regarding the Nomads. They don't shoot them, they don't hate them, but they also don't allow Nomads anywhere near Malta, nor allow them to shoot their allies.

On the OC - GC alliance, its perfectly fine and reasonable. And I say that both from an OC and a GC position. GC doesn't dislike anything about OC except the use of slaves. Meanwhile they get military assistance, Cardi, etc.

OC - Hessian alliance.. I think alliance is a step too far. They wouldn't be enemies, but not allied either. I'd put that relationship in a 'slightly friendly' category. Both major enemies of the 'sairs, they wouldn't waste time shooting each other. Furthermore, OC don't spread much Cardi to Rheinland. Junkers take it in there occasionally, but the OC leave Rheinland alone for the most part. And I don't think Hessians would care about them spreading it, as long as they aren't spreading it inside Rheinland.

OC - Molly alliance, needs taken out more than any other.. Outcasts have an agreement with the BAF. While they have an alliance with Mollys.. Major conflict of interest there, and has put the OC in some political corners recently. Mollies don't get anything from the Outcasts, and the only thing the Outcasts would get is some backup when operating in Bretonia.. But the Outcasts don't operate in Bretonia anyway, so no one gets anything from this. There are reasons against this alliance, and no reasons for it.. Now, as an OC, I'd love to keep this alliance going, but from a practical standpoint of a player, there is no reason for it..

Corsair - Gaian alliance, much the same as the Molly - OC alliance.. Gaians don't get anything from the Corsairs, and the Corsairs get nothing from the Gaians. Gaians don't help smuggle in Artifacts. Furthermore, Gaians would be disgusted by the cannibalistic story of Corsairs from the past, regardless of the fact that the Corsairs aren't cannibals except for that one time where it was necessary. On top of that, Gaians are concerned with the preservation of nature, while the Corsairs couldn't care less about it. I don't think Gaians would like the Corsairs any more than the Outcasts. They'd either be neutral to both or hostile to both. An alliance with anyone makes no sense here. However, regarding Mollys, I think Gaian's hostility is perfectly legitimate. Mollys are concerned with mining the gold and refining it from Dublin.. To Gaians, this is a desecration of nature. They are mining the naturally-formed asteroids in Dublin. Mollys would be just as big an enemy as BAF.

OC - Hacker alliance, perfectly legit. See GC.

OC - Rogue alliance, I believe they'd stay allied. They are common allies of Hackers, and the Rogues make a very good profit on Cardamine, as well as getting military assistance, capital ship support (Dessies), Infernos, etc. Rogues get quite a few things from the Outcasts that they wouldn't be able to get if they were neutral.

Corsair - FA alliance, I think that'd get bumped down to friendly. FA don't like the GC, BD, or OC. All for different reasons, and are allies of the Hogosha. But they also don't like the Corsairs. They are just more foreigners out ruining the economy of Kusari, and corrupting it. I know AFA already forbids any 'sairs from pirating in Kusari. FA don't get any support from the Corsairs, and aren't tied to the Artifact trade either, so they aren't getting anything out of them.

Corsair - Order alliance, never should've existed in the first place in my opinion.. There was no point to it. But as Mark said, such a big topic, it needs its own thread.

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