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Offline Dab
03-28-2009, 05:02 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-28-2009, 05:03 AM by Dab.)
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' Wrote:Considering that mjolnir's capship weapons post when 4.85 was originally released specifically stated that battleship razors were meant to snipe bombers, and that cruiser razors were meant to be used against smaller gunboats/gunships, I really dont see the point of this argument.

Guess I could be like every other idjit on these forums, plug my ears, and yell "GET ESCORTS LOLOLOLOLOL!!!" over and over again.
Note; BATTLESHIP razors were meant to snipe bombers. Not cruiser battlerazors. Cruiser battle razors may be meant to hit gunboats/gunships, but certainly NOT fighters/bombers. Anything fired by a cruiser that can hit a fighter/bomber should not insta-kill it. And if a GB is within 800m, which is its weapon range and has to be there to hit the cruiser, the battlerazor could hit it if the BR had a speed of 300m, or 400m max.

Also, please answer this, for you have not done so yet;
What is wrong with using Primary turrets against a GB?


Lastly; Whats wrong with escorts? Do you ever look at NPC cap patrols? Always escorted.. Always. I don't see why people on this server can't do the same. Heck, I had an escort of two fighters and two bombers for a single Border Worlds Transport.. So why can't a destroyer get 1-2 fighters to protect it? With the new armor and shield boosts for capships, they can survive against bombers long enough for those fighters to actually be useful. Not to mention that the cruiser's standard turrets can hit bombers and fighters as well.. We do NOT need a super weapon in the form of a Battlerazor. Reduce its speed to 350m/s and that'd fix everyone, while still retaining the ability to hit gunboats. Also, may I add, BRs and Mortars aren't meant to be able to hit their target 10 times out of 10. Aim is supposed to factor into it.. With 800m/s, there is no need to aim, you just point towards the target and hit it. There is no judging of how far ahead of the target you should aim, or anticipating their turns, because if you just aim right at the red target, it'll hit every time. Why should it be so easy? And why should it be so fast as to hit bombers and fighters at a range that should give them plenty of time to dodge it?

So again, I ask you; Is the ability to utterly destroy a GB with yet another, third, type of weapon, really worth the ruining of two of the most basic ship classes in this mod? Fighters and bombers? Because if so, I might as well just go grab a cruiser now and fly around with it. Not to mention having to leave the factions where the biggest ship allowed is a gunboat.. What do we tell those players? Get a cruiser of your own? What do we tell the GB pilots when the fighters and bombers are gone, and they have no chance against a cruiser? Get a cruiser of your own? Of course, at that point, half the factions are gone, since many can't use anything bigger than a gunboat.. The Cr and GB battlerazor speed needs a decrease. At the very least to 400m/s, 350m/s being better.

Our goal has been to create balance between all the ship classes in this mod.. Towards this end, we have yet to succeed.

EDIT: @Camtheman; This is purely for cruiser BRs, not battleship ones. Everything else I'd like to say to you here wouldn't be quite appropriate, so I'll just end there.

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Battle Razors.. - by Dab - 03-28-2009, 03:52 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Weedalot - 03-28-2009, 04:10 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 04:13 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Dab - 03-28-2009, 04:19 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Ironwatsas - 03-28-2009, 04:21 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Cosmos - 03-28-2009, 04:23 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Jamez - 03-28-2009, 04:25 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 04:30 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Ironwatsas - 03-28-2009, 04:31 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 04:36 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Dab - 03-28-2009, 04:40 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 04:44 AM
Battle Razors.. - by darthbeck - 03-28-2009, 04:51 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Ironwatsas - 03-28-2009, 04:52 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Enko - 03-28-2009, 04:55 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 04:58 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Rudo - 03-28-2009, 04:58 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 04:59 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 03-28-2009, 05:00 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Dab - 03-28-2009, 05:02 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 03-28-2009, 05:08 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Derkylos - 03-28-2009, 05:14 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 05:20 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Dab - 03-28-2009, 05:24 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Dab - 03-28-2009, 05:29 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 05:30 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Derkylos - 03-28-2009, 05:32 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Dab - 03-28-2009, 05:32 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 05:38 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Caribe - 03-28-2009, 05:42 AM
Battle Razors.. - by JakeSG - 03-28-2009, 05:45 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Blodo - 03-28-2009, 05:46 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 03-28-2009, 05:52 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Blodo - 03-28-2009, 05:53 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Lucend - 03-28-2009, 05:53 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 03-28-2009, 05:53 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Blodo - 03-28-2009, 05:56 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 03-28-2009, 05:58 AM
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Battle Razors.. - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 03-28-2009, 06:02 AM
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Battle Razors.. - by Benjamin - 03-28-2009, 06:38 AM
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Battle Razors.. - by Caribe - 03-28-2009, 06:52 AM
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Battle Razors.. - by Dra1003 - 03-28-2009, 06:55 AM
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Battle Razors.. - by Koolmo - 03-28-2009, 07:01 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 07:02 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Koolmo - 03-28-2009, 07:04 AM
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Battle Razors.. - by Derkylos - 03-28-2009, 07:25 AM
Battle Razors.. - by frozen - 03-28-2009, 07:34 AM
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Battle Razors.. - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 03-28-2009, 08:16 AM
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Battle Razors.. - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 03-28-2009, 07:33 PM
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Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 08:15 PM
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Battle Razors.. - by zeinstruktor - 03-28-2009, 09:27 PM
Battle Razors.. - by Camtheman Of Freelancer4Ever - 03-28-2009, 09:34 PM
Battle Razors.. - by Rudo - 03-29-2009, 04:53 AM
Battle Razors.. - by El Nino - 03-30-2009, 11:05 AM
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Battle Razors.. - by Muleo - 03-30-2009, 12:45 PM
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