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Offline Jinx
03-28-2009, 09:27 AM,
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ok - i have read the first 40 posts and the last 10 ...

battle razors:

they are the weapons of choice vs. ships of gunship / gunboat size. - by the sheer stats ( damage / speed ) they appear to be perfect weapons. - but they are by far the most inefficient weapons in the game ( that applies to the BATTLESHIP RAZORS )

the problem with cruisers is - cruiser powerplants range from 1.800.000 to 3.600.000.000 - thats twice as large in one shipclass.

if we applied that to the battleships - we d have small ones with 7.000.000 up to large ones with 14.000.000 energy - but there we "only" have 7.000.000 to 9.000.000. so one can see the trouble there. - razors for battleships are 100% balanced - razors on cruisers are a bugger - and that is why they do not have a speed of 1600 of course.

how to hit a bomber in a cruiser with a 800ms gun? - only when the bomber is coming really close .... the projectile size of the razor is as small as any other projectile ( except the flak, which is as large as a large transport ) - so at around 500-1000 range - a bomber is fairly SAFE from them.... provided he dodges a bit of course.

why was that done so?

bombers have an easy life - and thats a fact. - their main defense is their agility and size. capital ships need a whole lot more skill than bomberpilots to harm each other. - so of course a 280ms supernova has an easier time hitting a destroyer than a 800ms razor has hitting a bomber - that is - unless both ships were the same size and speed.

furthermore - a bomber can thrust to 200 and accelerate the SN to 480ms - the destroyer can practicly do the same with the razor 940ms - but due to its lower speed, thats of no great use for that matter.

a problem we got is that a battlecruiser can indeed basicly spam battlerazors - BUT - a battlecruiser is not a kusari destroyer. it is much much MUCH larger, slow like a tortoise and usually uses turret view vs. bombers instead of jousting them. a kusari destroyer however is fast - has a smaller powerplant and is harder to hit. - but it still takes a very good gunner to hit a bomber. and we don t want to punish high skill and blame it on the weapon ... when we award high skill on fighter classes instead of blaming it on the weapon... .



about a fight of 3 bombers vs. 1 kusari destroyer. - i m a bit at a loss there. - it hasn t worked to have one bomber play the bait and dodge while the other 2 sit behind the ku-destroyer and pick it apart? - it takes quite some coordination to work as a "team" but we also expect a capital ship to work like a team with escorts - just having 2 buddies with fighters doesn t make an escort after all - it takes coordination.

from what i read - i am not at all convinced that the razors need any second glance, nither gunboat, cruiser or battleship razors.

razors are weapons that have a steep learning curve on the already steep learning curve of capital ship weapons. - if someone is lucky - or very good with them - he gets rewarded with a good kill. ... . much like a good bomber pilot that once in a while gets rewarded with a supernova insta kill vs. a fighter.


i must admit though - i m not flying a cruiser / destroyer and i have only PvPed vs. a destroyer 2 times ( in a civi bomber with nova [ not supernova ] torp ) so far.

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Battle Razors.. - by Dab - 03-28-2009, 03:52 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Weedalot - 03-28-2009, 04:10 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 04:13 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Dab - 03-28-2009, 04:19 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Ironwatsas - 03-28-2009, 04:21 AM
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Battle Razors.. - by Jamez - 03-28-2009, 04:25 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 04:30 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Ironwatsas - 03-28-2009, 04:31 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Tenacity - 03-28-2009, 04:36 AM
Battle Razors.. - by Dab - 03-28-2009, 04:40 AM
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