Battleships

[Jinx]

no, mjolnir, i am afraid you have missed the point - again.

what it is about is... when i start at zero - and i get a bomber. - i can gain the skill to use it to its intended purpose quite easily with relativly little practice. - i experience a rapid increase of "skill" in my own perception. - i see results - i manage to dodge warship fire, i manage to hit them and do considerable damage... i figure out patterns.

this learning curve starts out very rewarding - but "mastering" the ship requires a lot of work where you actually do NOT experience such leaps in rewarding skill anymore.

for a long time, you will still be able to dodge warship fire and shoot your torpedo - but the effect won t be as great as it was when you started out at zero. ( that means - the learning advancement flattens with the time you spend )



now - take the battleship ( or cruiser ) ... people start with great expectations very often - and the rewarding effect start out a bit higher than a fighter. - for one, you deal a lot of damage to a large target and ... in theory you deal a lot of damage to a small target like a fighter.

but in contrast to the bomber, your learning curve advances in tiny steps first - but makes larger leaps later. - so for a long time, you feel like you re not getting much better with the ship at all. - that is why the frustration grade on those ships is so high, cause your expectations don t match your expected advance in skill.



so - after zero hours:

- you suck at flying a bomber
- you suck at flying a battleship

after maybe 20 hours practicing:

- you manage to dodge good enough to evade warship weaponfire
- you still suck at flying a battleship

after maybe 50 hours practicing:

- you still manage to dodge good enough and evade warship weaponfire, - you became better at aiming, but all in all, not much changed for you
- you become better at weapongrouping, get a feeling for your weapons and your ship - you figure out manouvers to dodge torpedos and warship fire

after maybe 100 hours practicing:

- you manage to SN fighters in a joust - but against warships - you re still ... well... good enough to take them down like you have been after maybe 20 hours
- you re pretty good at fighthing other warships of the same size and you even manage to evade a lot of damage while being good enough to aim at small targets


that should illustrate that learning is different for those ships. - one reason is that ... when you can fly one bomber, you can very easily get used to another bomber - if the other bomber is not too different - but even being used to a kusari bomber and switching to a barghest won t make you a lot worse at the bombers primary purpose - fighthing capital ships.


while - when you switch from an osiris to a zoner juggernaut, you really need to learn again, cause what you did in your osiris will kill you in a juggernaut - and you don t have much of a feeling for the weapons anymore. .. its a totally different ship.




of course - if you don t agree with that view - you don t need to, mjolnir. - that is why its subjective.. maybe for you - learning to fly a bomber is fiendishly difficult and flying a battleship is "novice" level - maybe they are completely the same regarding to the learning curve.

but then i really do wonder why we got quite some decent bomberpilots around - while ( as you pointed out ) 94% [ or quite many anyway - i was too lazy to make a search for your post ] of the warship players suck. ( which you wrote in another thread ) - that asks the question....

are only dumb people flying warships? or are they harder to learn....

so lets say it that way...

for ME - the learning curve of these ships look like that. - for YOU, it might to different. for me, that is an explanation of the frustration of players trading weeks and then selling their large ships again. - and an explanation of the great popularity of the bomberclass. feel free to have it your own way. - and as a little side remark - it doesn t require one to be an elite pilot on the server to think of a theory - i think even a mediocre pilot can figure out an idea why things are the way they are .. doesn t mean they re right or wrong though.

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