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Gaians and Corsairs
Offline Blodo
04-05-2009, 05:12 PM,
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' Wrote:First of all, the Order/Corsair alliance is not silly in the slightest. Imagine: you're exiled to the Omicrons with one battleship and several wings of fighters, but all the tech in the Sector. You are set upon all sides by hostile forces, what do you do? The Bounty Hunters initiate a bloody war and Liberty is still very hostile. Nomads are obviously hostile, and so are their worshipers, the Outcasts.

Then you find a very large faction that seems to be fighting ALL of those enemies. AND, they even have shipyards with new tech to trade. Sure, they may seem to be a bit shifty, but hate your enemies almost as much as you do, plus they can help you build up your forces quickly and efficiently.
Yes so the Order which is a faction by far the most dedicated towards saving mankind allies itself with Corsairs: a mass of bloodthirsty, anarchic pirates and cutthroats hell bent on dominating Sirius in their own way. Makes a lot of sense, that.

Or maybe the Order got enough support from defectors from militaries and from its own funding (who says Toledo wasn't colonised long before humanity even ran into Nomads?) that it was able to construct a powerbase on its own, helped by genuinely ideological factions? In vanilla the Order isn't allies to Corsairs, it is allied to Blood Dragons and Bundschuh...

Quote:Also, I believe the Outcast/Corsair war is something of an underground economic and martial boon. Consider the Xenos of Vanilla. Generally, the Xenos weren't very frightening in their Starfleas, and didn't have that many bases. Then you had the LH and Rogues who did take sides in the war and profited greatly. (Although there are rumors all over the place that the Rogues were in cahoots with the Corsairs as well)

See, I don't think it matters if the Red Hessians use Cardi at all. They profit from the stuff, and it helps them fuel their war machine. Taking sides in the war could spell the difference between a worker's movement getting off the ground and fading into obscurity. Sure the Gaians have funds from the Green Front, but the Corsairs help them become pilots and station engineers and anything else they want. Ditto with LH, Mollies, GC and FA.
1. Xenos are the second largest pirate group in Liberty (if not largest) rivalling the Liberty Rogues very capably. That "OC funding" doesn't seem to be working out for them too well if a bunch of Xenos can give the Rogues and Hackers a good run for their money... Rogues should be neutral to OCs and Corsairs to reflect their lack of centralised leadership and their dealings in both cardamine and artifacts.
2. The Hessians are undisputably Sirius' third largest unlawful faction. They run an enormous diamond smuggling and cargo piracy ring that stretches across all of the Omegas, Rheinland, Bretonia even (rumours say that Hessian expansion to Cambridge is a matter of time), and involves the Unioners and Liberty Rogues in smuggling the goods to Liberty. They don't embrace cardamine and never will, neither do they smuggle it or ever see the profits from it (Outcast dons giving out cash for free? lol). They despise the Nomads and anybody involved with them as the Wilde keep appearing in their space. They don't need Outcast support, in fact them and Outcasts never meet. They should be neutral at most, but not allied, since obviously anything beyond ceasefire is a bit far fetched considering the above facts.
3. Gaians are like Bretonian Xenos a bit... they are a political terrorist movement. What makes you think they would go and seek out a bunch of profit driven pirates to teach them to fly instead of simply getting their own training from disillusioned BAF or corporate pilots?

Basically the alliances in their current state only create masses of plotholes and dumb each involved unlawful faction down. A faction is ideological? It allied with Corsairs, theyre just pirates now. I protest against dumbing down of the RP of each faction like this... as said in posts above this one, nothing is black and white and Sirius shouldnt be either.
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Gaians and Corsairs - by hribek - 04-03-2009, 06:57 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Friday - 04-03-2009, 08:30 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by pipboy - 04-03-2009, 08:43 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Chico - 04-04-2009, 02:05 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Benjamin - 04-04-2009, 02:27 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by worldstrider - 04-04-2009, 03:54 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by tansytansey - 04-04-2009, 05:01 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-04-2009, 05:05 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Blodo - 04-04-2009, 05:14 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Saigo.Watanabe - 04-04-2009, 05:16 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Derkylos - 04-04-2009, 05:17 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Aline - 04-04-2009, 05:17 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Derkylos - 04-04-2009, 05:20 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Aline - 04-04-2009, 05:29 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by McNeo - 04-04-2009, 05:30 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by farmerman - 04-04-2009, 06:49 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by worldstrider - 04-04-2009, 08:00 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-04-2009, 08:03 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Rudo - 04-04-2009, 08:13 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Dusty Lens - 04-04-2009, 08:20 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by BaconSoda - 04-04-2009, 11:44 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Friday - 04-05-2009, 12:31 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by tansytansey - 04-05-2009, 02:18 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Blodo - 04-05-2009, 02:37 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Lucend - 04-05-2009, 04:10 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by hribek - 04-05-2009, 04:28 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Aline - 04-05-2009, 04:44 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Benjamin - 04-05-2009, 05:00 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Blodo - 04-05-2009, 05:12 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by hribek - 04-05-2009, 05:19 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Lucend - 04-05-2009, 05:36 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Blodo - 04-05-2009, 05:49 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Aline - 04-05-2009, 06:20 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Benjamin - 04-05-2009, 07:10 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Lucend - 04-05-2009, 07:34 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Aline - 04-05-2009, 07:37 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by BaconSoda - 04-05-2009, 07:39 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by farmerman - 04-05-2009, 07:49 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Aline - 04-05-2009, 07:54 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Tidomann - 04-05-2009, 07:55 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Benjamin - 04-05-2009, 07:56 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Tidomann - 04-05-2009, 08:13 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Kuraine - 04-06-2009, 01:24 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by BaconSoda - 04-06-2009, 01:32 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Tidomann - 04-06-2009, 01:55 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Blodo - 04-06-2009, 02:04 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Grimly - 04-06-2009, 02:28 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by hribek - 04-06-2009, 03:17 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Benjamin - 04-06-2009, 05:23 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Tidomann - 04-06-2009, 06:17 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Benjamin - 04-06-2009, 04:03 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-06-2009, 04:32 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by pipboy - 04-06-2009, 05:04 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Kuraine - 04-07-2009, 05:13 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Zelot - 04-07-2009, 05:30 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Kuraine - 04-07-2009, 05:33 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Zelot - 04-07-2009, 05:41 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Lucend - 04-07-2009, 06:12 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Tidomann - 04-07-2009, 08:03 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Marburg - 04-08-2009, 12:53 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by hribek - 04-08-2009, 04:35 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 04:46 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Benjamin - 04-08-2009, 05:22 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 05:28 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by farmerman - 04-08-2009, 05:57 AM
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Gaians and Corsairs - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 03:41 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by pipboy - 04-08-2009, 04:01 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Benjamin - 04-08-2009, 04:11 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Lucend - 04-08-2009, 04:46 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Marburg - 04-08-2009, 04:57 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 05:02 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Xing - 04-08-2009, 05:06 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Dusty Lens - 04-08-2009, 05:07 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Tidomann - 04-08-2009, 05:20 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 05:23 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Tidomann - 04-08-2009, 05:27 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by BaconSoda - 04-08-2009, 05:28 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Dusty Lens - 04-08-2009, 05:30 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by BaconSoda - 04-08-2009, 05:34 PM
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