Gaians and Corsairs

[Lucend]

I think we should differentiate between a military alliance and an economic one. The Order and Corsairs are under a military and tech alliance because of their mutual enemies. Yes, the Order does kill other humans, but only -because- they have a noble cause. They don't help out against the Hessians, the other House police/navy, so I really don't see your point, Ben. Plus, they are allied with the Zoners, but for completely different reasons. That alliance is more or less based on intelligence gathering and semi-mutual defense. (If I'm making any mistakes in my lore, please jump in)

Yes so the Order which is a faction by far the most dedicated towards saving mankind allies itself with Corsairs: a mass of bloodthirsty, anarchic pirates and cutthroats hell bent on dominating Sirius in their own way. Makes a lot of sense, that.

I don't quite understand your point. Mostly because your description of the two factions is fairly far from insightful, or neutral in anyway. Sure, the Corsairs are bloodthirsty pirates bent on domination of Sirius, but don't you think they might have more immediate plans on their minds? Like protecting their territory from Nomads and Bounty Hunters. And acquiring new tech and allies, because remember, not all alliances are forever or even Sector-wide knowledge.

There also seems to be a thinking that if you are friendly or even - gasp - allied with Outcasts or Corsairs you give up your individuality as a faction.

Basically the alliances in their current state only create masses of plotholes and dumb each involved unlawful faction down. A faction is ideological? It allied with Corsairs, theyre just pirates now. I protest against dumbing down of the RP of each faction like this... as said in posts above this one, nothing is black and white and Sirius shouldnt be either.

What, exactly, is black and white about all this? Outcast/Corsair? Or Lawful vs. Unlawful?

Your ideological faction can still be ideological, it's just that now you have to socialize with someone on a higher level than simply shooting them.

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"The thirteen saloons that had lined the one street of Seney had not left a trace. The foundations of the Mansion House hotel stuck up above the ground. The stone was chipped and split by the fire. It was all that was left of the town of Seney. Even the surface had been burned off the ground.
Nick looked at the burned-over stretch of hillside, where he had expected to find the scattered houses of the town and then walked down the railroad track to the bridge over the river. The river was there."

Osaika Moto, the Fall and Rise of a Kusari Farmer

Juan Lucendez, √ Corsair