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Gaians and Corsairs
Offline BaconSoda
04-05-2009, 07:39 PM,
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I think one of the main problems here is over thinking some military decisions. Looking back at World War II, Germany was a major superpower, and the Soviet Union and the Allies, despite their various differences, banded together to destroy an immediate threat. Doesn't that seem logical in Sirius as well?

The Order was having difficulty building ships without a working shipyard and may have been eradicated without the help of the Corsairs, hence, the old alliance. Now that they're a bit more settled in, the alliance may be moot, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Corsars and Order went their separate ways. However, as long as there is a mutual interest in fighting the Nomads, and now the Bounty Hunters, in the Omicrons, I don't see where there is a problem in the alliance.

Same goes for the Hessians, Mollys, and Outcasts. Saying that the Outcasts and Hessians or Mollys and Outcasts would never meet is quite a moot point, because where would the Mollys and Hessians meet? Cambridge? The Hessians might be expanding, but, they aren't there yet, and the Mollys only have a minimal presence there because of the Corsairs, even if the Hessians were there. They never see each other, why would they be allied even if they have many mutual interests?

Furthermore, there is a large mutual interest in the alliance between the Outcasts, Mollys, and Hessians, and that is fighting the Corsairs. The Mollys just want Dublin, but the Corsairs are encroaching on that space. They help the Outcasts kick them out, they can put more pressure on the BAF, and liberate Dublin. The Hessians want to control the Omegas. The Outcasts put additional pressure on the Corsairs in the Sigmas, and the Hessians have more of a window to attack the Corsairs. It's a simple equation, really, and we're over thinking it a bit.

If the Hessians/Mollys and Outcasts lose their alliance, we'll get the cold war effect before they should logically dislike each other. They have a mutual interest, still, and it should still be their paramount objective, is it not?

Anyway, back on topic:

' Wrote:Like I said, you're just not looking at the full picture. Gaians are a bunch of things. An alliance with the corsairs stops them being all those things, except pirates. What do they get in exchange? Corsair ships and guns. So what do we have? Pirates with corsair ships and corsair guns. Nice gaian there.

The fact is, Gaians don't need anything from the Corsairs, and they lose a huge amount out of being allied.

There is literally no sound reasoning that would result in the gaians allying to the corsairs.

What exactly are they losing? They don't lose their individuality as a faction at all, but they get the ability to fund themselves, instead of relying on the Green Front completely, and they get leverage in the larger view of what the Corsairs do to Bretonia. I don't see anything wrong with these things. The Hogosha and FA might be allied to the Corsairs, but neither of them are Sirius-Conquering pirates who are driven fully by greed, just like a Corsair clone. They're their own factions, why do we think the Gaians should react differently?

' Wrote:So your mutual enemies here are...bounty hunters? A mutual dislike of bounty hunters is your entire basis for this alliance? Why aren't unioners involved in this alliance?

Because by allying with the Corsairs, they actually lost their most important life line: Diamond smuggling. The Unioners are mostly terrorists, and so they don't do much piracy, from what I understand, and so without the diamonds from the Hessians to be smuggled back to Liberty, they lost their entire economy. That is why they're neutral.

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[8:32:45 PM] Dusty Lens: Oh no, let me get that. Hello? Oh it's my grandma. She says to be roleplay.
[12:49:19 AM] Elgatodiablo: You know its nice that you have all that proof and all, Bacon... but I just don't believe you.
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Gaians and Corsairs - by hribek - 04-03-2009, 06:57 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Friday - 04-03-2009, 08:30 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by pipboy - 04-03-2009, 08:43 AM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Chico - 04-04-2009, 02:05 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Benjamin - 04-04-2009, 02:27 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by worldstrider - 04-04-2009, 03:54 PM
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Gaians and Corsairs - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-04-2009, 08:03 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Rudo - 04-04-2009, 08:13 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Dusty Lens - 04-04-2009, 08:20 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by BaconSoda - 04-04-2009, 11:44 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Friday - 04-05-2009, 12:31 AM
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Gaians and Corsairs - by Blodo - 04-05-2009, 02:37 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Lucend - 04-05-2009, 04:10 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by hribek - 04-05-2009, 04:28 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Aline - 04-05-2009, 04:44 PM
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Gaians and Corsairs - by Lucend - 04-05-2009, 07:34 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Aline - 04-05-2009, 07:37 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by BaconSoda - 04-05-2009, 07:39 PM
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Gaians and Corsairs - by Tidomann - 04-05-2009, 08:13 PM
Gaians and Corsairs - by Kuraine - 04-06-2009, 01:24 AM
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Gaians and Corsairs - by BaconSoda - 04-08-2009, 05:28 PM
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