Gaians and Corsairs

[Grimly]

There are intended to be a considerable number of changes to various alliances in 4.86 (or perhaps even sooner). The changes, and some of the reasons for them are as follows:

Gaian - Corsair alliance: The Gaians are understandable extremely upset over the nuclear destruction of the once-habitable and pristine Planet Cork at the hands of the Corsairs, and it goes against everything they believe in. The Green Front have also insisted that they extricate themselves from their friendship with the Corsairs or they will cut all their funding and publicly denounce the Gaian Movement once and for all. The Gaians don't need much persuasion on this point, especially since the Corsairs are continually raiding their home turf in Cambridge anyway, and as such have decided that the Corsairs are no longer welcome in Bretonia space. To this end, their stance will most likely change from unfriendly to outright hostility.

Gaian - Mollys stance: It is likely that in the wake of their separation from the Corsairs, the Gaians will sign a neutrality agreement with the Molly miners. They have no bone to pick with each other, and the Mollys have no interest in exploiting Gaia or any other planets, as the Mollys simply want Dublin.

Molly - Outcast alliance: The Mollys, after the nuclear destruction of their planet and loss of nearly 50,000 people in the attack, realised that they really get very little out of their alliance with the Outcasts, not to mention that they hate Cardamine, and as such downgrade their status to neutral/friendly.

Molly - Hessian stance: Due to both of the groups being disinherited miners who are both struggling against the oppressions of their home governments and against the Corsair nation, and also being fairly close to one another, they will at some point sign an alliance treaty.

Hessian - Outcast alliance: Realising they get very little out of the alliance, and that they have absolutely nothing in common with the Outcasts beyond their hatred of the Corsairs, and that the Outcasts are continually pushing them to open up more Cardamine markets into Rheinland, they terminate the alliance although remain on neutral/friendly terms purely on Corsair-related matters.

Liberty Rogues - Outcast alliance: The Liberty Rogues have never been comfortable with the alliance, because it neutralizes any chances of profits smuggling artifacts and other goods from the Corsairs. To this end, they drop their alliance (which they never originally had anyway) and go back to being neutral with both the Corsairs and the Outcasts.

Lane Hackers and Golden Chrysanthemums will remain allied with the Outcasts.

Hogosha - Corsair alliance: The Hogosha are extremely isolationist (like FA, Samura and the Kusari government in general) and want no foreign influence in Kusari, especially unlawfuls because they want to control the entire black market by themselves. They are willing, however, to deal with the Corsairs outside of Kusari on the Hawaii, whereupon they pick up shipments of artifacts bound for other areas. To this end, there is no reason why they would have an alliance with the Edge World gaijin scum, as they certainly do not need an alliance to do business. They therefore will revert to neutral/friendly.

Farmers Alliance - Corsair alliance: For similar reasons as above, the Farmers are extremely nationalistic and isolationist and do not tolerate any foreign attempts to expand into Kusari. They are mainly concentrated on stopping Synth Foods and their own attempts to solve Kusari's food problems. They therefore remain allied with the Hogosha but move to be neutral to the Corsairs.

Order - Corsair alliance: Ah, well here's the tricky one. The Order should (and would never) have needed an alliance with the Corsairs. The Order is known in full as the Order of Cincinattus (although this full title is known to very, very few), and was formed in secret by high ranking Liberty politicians, scientists, naval personnel and corporate CEOs in 20 A.S. The Order is largely funded by black ops funding from Liberty, smuggled out through Order agents and contacts, including former-President and current Senator Barbara Jacobi, Senator Harrigan and Senator Mitchell. The Order obtains much of its technology, weapons and funding from clandestine meetings with Liberty Navy admirals "in-the-know", and through the Blood Dragons and the Zoners who also produce a number of fighters and supply recruits for the organisation. A large amount of their supplies are donated from idealogical organisations and other sources.

Order agents teaching at West Point Academy (of which Jun'Ko Zane is currently an instructor) keep tabs on potential trainees who may be contacted later for recruitment into the Order. They also obtain a steady stream of recruits from most other organisations, including even the Corsairs (those idealistic few who want to protect humanity instead of destroy it). While officially a terrorist organisation, the Liberty Navy is never allowed to openly engage the Order or even do any real damage to the organisation.

As for the Liberty Security Force, it was actually founded *BY* the Order and its top ranking members within Liberty for the express purpose of being a public organisation that can operate in the open for the safety of Liberty. This is of course largely unknown to anyone except the very, very top members who are also Order agents. Officially hostile, they too are not allowed to engage the Order too much. There's a problem with the BHG, which is why the LSF rein in their activities against the Order from time to time, but there is little that they can do against the Guild at present and the Order must deal with that issue by themselves.

Planet Toledo is having a new infocard implemented very soon (next auto-update most likely), as well as a number of new rumours for the Order detailing the background of the Order and several upcoming changes.

Sorry for the lengthy post, but I thought it was a good idea to share this with you. Feel free to comment, make suggestions, criticise (constructively!), and all that kind of thing.

To the hogosha / farmer alliance and corsairs diplomacy changes, could I give my disagreements ?

Where are the artifacts coming from ? Gamma of course where else.

So the problem with that ideas is since the artifacts are the main products running on the black market, stopping the corsair relations would kill the black market and then there would be 2 choices : hogoshas + farmers falls into a war for the artifacts against the corsairs (a war they would lose) or disappear.

The corsairs are not welcome in kusary but it's to avoid to break the tolerance of KNF about hogosha + farmers. Nevertheless, an alliance on artifact black market is needed. The corsairs won't be carrying the artifacts by their own in sigmas without an alliance.

Also, I'm surprised the KNF and the corsairs didn't took any contacts since they could coordinate their attacks against bretonia.

About the LR thing ... after I saw a post about the SP mod having so much differences with disco mod (particularly concerning the artifacts), I was wondering why disco came to that.

RHA - OC : If KNF - Corsair don't exists, why RHA - OC would ? (I think there is in fact a choice in it)

Gaian : Well I see them as the xenos in liberty. Just the disco alliance with corsairs was an opportunity to have the adapted technology.

Orders : Play SP mod again, why the hell are keepers neutral to outcasts ? why the hell are orders allied with the worst enemies of the one they worked with before ? I may missed something but, well something is wrong.


And about LSF and order relations, well that's something I didn't expected really. The LSF is lying to anything they can ! Watch out ! They could even work for the rogues:D

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