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PETITION: Nerf NPCs
Offline mjolnir
04-06-2009, 10:31 AM,
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It takes maximum 3 salvos to kill an NPC titan in a BHG Destroyer with Primaries....


' Wrote:[*]NPCs are currently too strong.
Exactly which NPCs (faction) and where. Else even if 95% of Discovery signs this petition, it will be useless.

Quote:[*]A Bounty Hunter Battleship should not be ganked by five hundred Titans the moment it peeks into the Omicrons.
Only place I can see this happening is Omicron Gamma or Delta, even there the "top" number is about 12.

Quote:[*]Gallic Navy NPCs should not swarm Grenoble with five bombers, a gunboat and an ice cream truck every ten seconds.

Ok got it, Grenoble depot has too many GRN NPCs, will check them out, thanks.

Quote:[*]A transport should not be continually shot at, disrupted, rammed out of the way of the lanes and forced to use all its shield batteries and nanobots every time it tries to go anywhere.
This is not very concrete....afaik a transport is not in "danger" from NPCs as long as it follows TLs. Even in gallia it has weapon platforms to protect him.

Quote:[*]Rogues should not shoot to pieces every Starflier that travels from Pennsylvania to West Point.
This part is exactly the same as in vanilla, only that they use bats/bots ever now and then. Maybe a reason why there are ton of other "starter" ship in pennsylvania?

Quote:[*]NPCs do not add to RP at all; that they currently detract from it by barging in on RP situations, shooting the opponent to tiny bits and flying away, and generally making nuisances of themselves.
TO me they add to RP. If I park my Kusari dessie above Leeds, I could laugh at BAF fighters/bombers forever if they don't get proper numbers. Now I have to be very careful that the BS patrols wont blast me. Similar examples are found ton of other places.

Quote:[*]And most importantly, that NPCs are not players, that they should not be equal to players, that they should exist only to provide atmosphere and that they should immediately be nerfed in all areas excepting
guard systems to levels where they cannot interfere with everyone's continued enjoyment of this server.
NPCs are not "background" either. As global said it wasn't really nice "RP" and helped "enjoyment" if you saw BHG BS in front of Crete and 15 titans couldn't even move its shield.

If you think they are "equal" to players... then you must have been meeting some very bad players recently.

Quote:"Where they cannot interfere with everyone's continued enjoyment of this server...."
That's a problem yes, over the past few days I have seen the most useless pilots fly caps or other ship in relatively "hard" locations.

"Difficulty" of different areas of sirius is split into different steps and has been so since vanilla. There's always a rather large area for anyone to play in.



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' Wrote:The argument for NPCs preventing base-camping is voided by the fact that 1: NPCs base-camp (ever been to Toledo? Yeah), 2: Base-camping can be fixed by upping the firepower of the base. This is more suitable than upping the power of NPCs for 2 reasons: 1) NPCs are not always present (when the server is heavily loaded), and 2)NPCs have some of the most ridiculous spawn points ever, even in vanilla.

Liberty Navy patrols regularly penetrate the Badlands, BH patrols engage Corsairs in Crete orbit, Bundschuh and Unioners assault New Berlin...I thought we agreed that camping a hostile base was a bad thing?...

If you up firepower of the base enemy ships will NEVER go there. Removing and area where you can rp. Now if both base and NPCs have some firepower enemy ships can go there, provided they shoot down "defending" NPCs as they come.

To come with a nice example... imagine if Stokes had same firepower as 2 BS. Would you ever fight next to it?

Now instead there are BS patrols ever now and then, which 3 bombers can shoot down within 5 mins (if they try off course).

If you think NPCs have ridicolous spawn points point them out. Those that you posted are areas where the "attackers" get blasted by the defenses rather quickly.

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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by pieguy259 - 04-06-2009, 09:44 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Captain - 04-06-2009, 09:49 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Derkylos - 04-06-2009, 09:52 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by slashhammer - 04-06-2009, 09:54 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by globalplayer-svk - 04-06-2009, 09:56 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by pieguy259 - 04-06-2009, 09:59 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by dead_shot - 04-06-2009, 09:59 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by globalplayer-svk - 04-06-2009, 10:09 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Cyberanson - 04-06-2009, 10:12 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by JakeSG - 04-06-2009, 10:15 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by pieguy259 - 04-06-2009, 10:17 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Derkylos - 04-06-2009, 10:28 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Eternal - 04-06-2009, 10:29 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by mjolnir - 04-06-2009, 10:31 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Exile - 04-06-2009, 10:32 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Blackvertigo1 - 04-06-2009, 10:35 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by sean24 - 04-06-2009, 10:36 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Jessica.Cannon - 04-06-2009, 10:48 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Eppy - 04-06-2009, 10:49 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by El Nino - 04-06-2009, 10:50 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Eppy - 04-06-2009, 10:52 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by mjolnir - 04-06-2009, 10:54 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Eppy - 04-06-2009, 11:02 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by mjolnir - 04-06-2009, 11:08 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by D56 - 04-06-2009, 11:09 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by FooFighter - 04-06-2009, 11:15 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by swift - 04-06-2009, 11:23 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Leo - 04-06-2009, 11:26 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Jinx - 04-06-2009, 11:34 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by El Nino - 04-06-2009, 11:43 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by NerdRage - 04-06-2009, 11:44 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by gezza999 - 04-06-2009, 11:51 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by swift - 04-06-2009, 12:21 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by McNeo - 04-06-2009, 12:24 PM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Sand-Viper - 04-06-2009, 01:04 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Feartrue - 04-06-2009, 01:48 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Panzer - 04-06-2009, 01:52 PM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Exile - 04-06-2009, 02:02 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by swift - 04-06-2009, 02:07 PM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Horon - 04-06-2009, 02:23 PM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by carlabrams - 04-06-2009, 02:58 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Phate - 04-06-2009, 02:59 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Saigo.Watanabe - 04-06-2009, 03:03 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Sand-Viper - 04-06-2009, 03:06 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Cellulanus - 04-06-2009, 03:11 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by mjolnir - 04-06-2009, 03:13 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Death.RunningVerminator - 04-06-2009, 03:28 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Horon - 04-06-2009, 03:39 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Benjamin - 04-06-2009, 03:39 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Armageddon - 04-06-2009, 04:16 PM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Klaw117 - 04-06-2009, 04:34 PM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Death.RunningVerminator - 04-06-2009, 04:38 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Cosmos - 04-06-2009, 04:43 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Unseelie - 04-06-2009, 04:43 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Kira_Knight - 04-06-2009, 04:44 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by mjolnir - 04-06-2009, 04:50 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by tazuras - 04-06-2009, 04:54 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by mwerte - 04-06-2009, 05:00 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Muleo - 04-06-2009, 05:05 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Xing - 04-06-2009, 05:07 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Unseelie - 04-06-2009, 05:07 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by tazuras - 04-06-2009, 05:28 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by mjolnir - 04-06-2009, 05:30 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Knuthetal - 04-06-2009, 06:40 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Navycross28 - 04-06-2009, 07:38 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Death.RunningVerminator - 04-06-2009, 07:50 PM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by mjolnir - 04-07-2009, 01:47 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by mjolnir - 04-07-2009, 01:49 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Derkylos - 04-07-2009, 01:57 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Elsdragon - 04-07-2009, 01:57 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by darthbeck - 04-07-2009, 02:01 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by ugliestmoose - 04-07-2009, 02:24 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by atm999 - 04-07-2009, 02:32 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Rocket.Mouse - 04-07-2009, 02:38 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by ivr56 - 04-07-2009, 02:41 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Magoo! - 04-07-2009, 02:41 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Gamazson - 04-07-2009, 02:45 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Elsdragon - 04-07-2009, 02:47 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Boss - 04-07-2009, 02:48 AM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by pieguy259 - 04-07-2009, 02:51 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Magoo! - 04-07-2009, 02:52 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by atm999 - 04-07-2009, 02:52 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Boss - 04-07-2009, 02:53 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by pieguy259 - 04-07-2009, 02:54 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by ivr56 - 04-07-2009, 02:54 AM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Eppy - 04-07-2009, 02:56 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Magoo! - 04-07-2009, 02:58 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by pieguy259 - 04-07-2009, 02:59 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by tazuras - 04-07-2009, 03:10 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by pieguy259 - 04-07-2009, 03:14 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Derkylos - 04-07-2009, 03:22 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Syndic - 04-07-2009, 03:29 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Eppy - 04-07-2009, 03:36 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by n00bl3t - 04-07-2009, 03:44 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Fozzie - 04-07-2009, 03:49 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Baltar - 04-07-2009, 03:54 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Benjamin - 04-07-2009, 04:02 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by sovereign - 04-07-2009, 04:13 AM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by tazuras - 04-07-2009, 05:16 AM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by NerdRage - 04-07-2009, 05:34 AM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by mjolnir - 04-07-2009, 06:37 PM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Eppy - 04-07-2009, 10:04 PM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Xing - 04-07-2009, 10:34 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Grumblesaur - 04-07-2009, 10:35 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Eppy - 04-07-2009, 10:38 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Magoo! - 04-07-2009, 10:54 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by mjolnir - 04-07-2009, 10:58 PM
PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by tazuras - 04-07-2009, 10:59 PM
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PETITION: Nerf NPCs - by Syndic - 04-08-2009, 01:06 AM
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