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Developments of the Bretonian Region
Offline BaconSoda
04-08-2009, 02:51 AM,
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' Wrote:I have nothing against updates to Bretonia, and may do some myself eventually. But please stick to stuff that makes sense. Furthermore, Cambridge holds a huge interest to Mollies. As Blodo said, its the breadbasket and target of countless Corsair attacks. On top of that is the trade going towards Rheinland through the Omegas (the jump hole and gates to it being near the Molly base for a reason). And as if we need any more reason, Cambridge is also where IMG's Bretonian-core base, Cardiff, is located. IMG threaten the Mollys, being miners also working in Dublin. The Mollys want those fields to themselves, so IMG has made itself into a target for them.

Have I missed something really important? The Mollys don't give any hoots about the IMG, and should probably like them because they, you know, indirectly supply them off the Hood, as they did in vanilla, unless I missed something...

Furthermore, the fact that it is the site of major Corsair attacks makes the construction of a base there, well, laughable, at best. The Corsairs might not control the entirety of Cambridge, but name one other pirate faction in that field in 4.84. That's right, you can't. The Corsairs are the only pirate faction in Cambridge, and, if we're reading the news articles, they're on the offensive against the Outcast allies, aside from the Hessians, who are being hit by Wilde. It makes almost no sense for the Mollys to be able to build a base there. In fact, if you'd like to argue that they can, look at your arguments from Iverness and the Rogues.

' Wrote:Um, I'd like to see Mollys and IMG back to being reasonably friendly.

After all, they need someone to fence their goods besides Junkers.

*Agrees and wonders when that was changed*

' Wrote:I still think Edinburgh should remain almost exclusively Gaian playground. Just like there is no Gaian presence in Dublin.

Oh and on the subject of new systems: Bretonia does need some new ones. Maybe even some empty ones that serve as not much more than a highway. But either way it could use some. Could draw up a plan for a new system with a Gateway shipyard in it.

Gateway Shipyard is a little off, don't you think? We're the underdogs, still, and though we might be coming up quickly, I would expect some 70% of government interests be in the hands of BowEx, and those that are given to Gateway nothing but domestic.

' Wrote:Hardly. Omega-3 is not Corsair territory, not even close. It's Bretonian occupied, containing both Hessians and Corsairs. Certainly not Corsair dominated. The Omega-3 side of the O-3 -> Cambridge jump hole is surrounded by Hessian NPCs and not Corsair ones. That provides a good platform for the future storyline development of Hessian - Molly contact.

Alternating spawns does not mean surrounded. Furthermore, why exactly do the Mollys, who only want to liberate Dublin, want to have contact with the Hessians, who have goals nothing short of piracy and revenge against Daumann and Kruger? I think something like the Outcast-Hessian and Outcast-Molly alliance argument is being played in here. The Mollys and Hessians shouldn't care much about each other, they don't have much of a mutual interest.

' Wrote:Also, the reason Mollys would be concerned with Cambridge is because it is an attractive target for terrorism. Imagine how they could spook the Bretonian government if they threatened to MOX bomb Planet Cambridge or something.

And foreign VIPs and Tourists aren't? I would think that kidnapping people on the way to the Shetland would be easier for the Mollys than trying to MOX-bomb Cambridge, especially since the BPA are much worse fighters than the BAF, who the Mollys have been fighting since Graves was a privately owned station.

' Wrote:And while we're discussing what out to be where, please tell me what point there is in Mollys making a base in a system filled with nothing but enemies, and where Gaians are already terrorizing both Planetform and OS&C, meaning Mollys don't need to.

I think the same thing can be asked about Cambridge, only replace the words "and where Gaians are already terrorizing both Planetform and OS&C" with "And where the Corsairs hold the only pirate presence in the system and are attacking Arranmore from Omega-49 while brawling with Mollys in New London." Cambridge is even more hostile than Edinburgh, especially if the Gaians go neutral to the Mollys. It simply makes no sense for the Mollys to suddenly have a base where they had no NPC presence in the history of Discovery.


' Wrote:Furthermore, being only a single jump hole away from the Molly headquarters, what is the point in making another base when it takes a Molly a matter of minutes to travel from Arranmore to Edinburgh and then accomplish whatever goal he is trying to accomplish.. Making a Molly base in Edinburgh is redundant and is of no benefit whatsoever to the Mollys. However, Cambridge has a major route to Rheinland, invading Corsairs, BAF breadbasket, IMG, and a jump from a system containing the Red Hessians, who are the 'Mollys' of Rheinland.

How exactly does any of this really benefit the Mollys? They have food, they get it from the IMG and Junkers, they have more than enough Corsairs to fight, right next to their main base in their home system and when they pirate in New London, and they're friendly with the IMG as to not pirate them. What exactly is it they achieve by building a base? Losing more forces to defend their base?

' Wrote:That location is also much more secure from the standpoint of Kusari. If Kusari takes all of Leeds, Edinburgh is at great risk. Why chance a base in a system KNF might invade? Cambridge on the other hand is much safer, but with a jump hole unknown to KNF that connects to Leeds, where the Mollys would be able to strike at them.

Also, why would Mollys give a toss about Planetform, OS&C, or Gaians? If Gaians stay out of the way, I doubt Mollys care much about them one way or another.

Why risk building a base in the middle of hostile territory that no significant Molly force has ever occupied while your enemy is on the offensive?

Why would the Mollys care about the IMG or a road to Rheinland? It makes less sense for them to risk more, and gain almost nothing. Also, what use would it be to pirate on the Leeds --> Edinburgh Jump Gate's Trade Lane if there was absolutely no interest there? There must be something that the Mollys would want in Edinburgh if they were pirating there.

Think about this: an ice field is being mined in Edinburgh. What does that mean? Free water there. Piracy on supply convoys to Perth and Shetland is free food. Boom, there is their Cambridge goals, only, they can get them easily because it's so easy to build a base in the shadow of Ayr. Remember how people don't go on the other side of that planet? Who is saying the Mollys didn't build there before the Trade Lanes were built. Who says the Mollys really need a base in Edinburgh at all, for that matter? Why not just let them inhabit the Mining Station Glorious instead, then they could still raid Edinburgh, and have a backup base to Arranmore should the Corsairs gain a foothold in Dublin. But, then again, it's right next door to Arranmore. Why would someone build stations so close to each other? It's not like BMM has Thames one jump away from Birmingham. Why not just mine things in Manchester and store it on Thames? It's only one jump away...

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Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-07-2009, 06:28 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Clarkie - 04-07-2009, 11:31 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Kambei - 04-07-2009, 11:36 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-07-2009, 11:40 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Kambei - 04-07-2009, 11:45 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-07-2009, 11:49 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Kambei - 04-07-2009, 11:54 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by pbrione - 04-08-2009, 12:05 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-08-2009, 12:12 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Blodo - 04-08-2009, 12:20 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by farmerman - 04-08-2009, 12:25 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-08-2009, 12:30 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by BMM-HQ - 04-08-2009, 12:43 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by pbrione - 04-08-2009, 12:45 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Seth Karlo - 04-08-2009, 12:53 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Blodo - 04-08-2009, 01:01 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Dab - 04-08-2009, 01:16 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-08-2009, 01:16 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 01:19 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Blodo - 04-08-2009, 01:27 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-08-2009, 01:29 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Blodo - 04-08-2009, 01:32 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by pbrione - 04-08-2009, 01:33 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Blodo - 04-08-2009, 01:43 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Dab - 04-08-2009, 01:52 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 01:54 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-08-2009, 01:54 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by johnpeter - 04-08-2009, 01:56 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 01:59 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Elsdragon - 04-08-2009, 01:59 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by pbrione - 04-08-2009, 02:01 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by beander2 - 04-08-2009, 02:11 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Dab - 04-08-2009, 02:18 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Kuraine - 04-08-2009, 02:20 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-08-2009, 02:28 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Dab - 04-08-2009, 02:28 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by pbrione - 04-08-2009, 02:39 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Friday - 04-08-2009, 02:43 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Dab - 04-08-2009, 02:43 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Friday - 04-08-2009, 02:50 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by BaconSoda - 04-08-2009, 02:51 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Blodo - 04-08-2009, 03:23 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 03:28 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by pbrione - 04-08-2009, 03:59 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Marburg - 04-08-2009, 04:03 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-08-2009, 04:32 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 04:36 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Friday - 04-08-2009, 04:59 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-08-2009, 05:12 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 05:23 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Blodo - 04-08-2009, 05:32 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Benjamin - 04-08-2009, 05:58 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by ugliestmoose - 04-08-2009, 06:03 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Blodo - 04-08-2009, 06:30 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Marburg - 04-08-2009, 06:41 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Kambei - 04-08-2009, 06:55 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by farmerman - 04-08-2009, 07:01 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Seth Karlo - 04-08-2009, 10:38 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Benjamin - 04-08-2009, 11:34 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Stoat - 04-08-2009, 11:48 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Seth Karlo - 04-08-2009, 12:07 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by jammi - 04-08-2009, 12:35 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by pbrione - 04-08-2009, 02:35 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by mwerte - 04-08-2009, 02:38 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 02:42 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Xing - 04-08-2009, 03:13 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 03:17 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by beander2 - 04-08-2009, 03:18 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Kambei - 04-08-2009, 03:22 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Seth Karlo - 04-08-2009, 03:38 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by jammi - 04-08-2009, 04:02 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 04:09 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Seth Karlo - 04-08-2009, 04:20 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by beander2 - 04-08-2009, 04:37 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by BaconSoda - 04-08-2009, 04:57 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 04:59 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Benjamin - 04-08-2009, 05:45 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Kambei - 04-08-2009, 05:51 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-08-2009, 05:55 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Seth Karlo - 04-08-2009, 07:34 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-08-2009, 07:48 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Blodo - 04-08-2009, 08:15 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-08-2009, 08:20 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by farmerman - 04-08-2009, 08:31 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by sean24 - 04-08-2009, 08:32 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Seth Karlo - 04-08-2009, 09:32 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by pbrione - 04-08-2009, 11:44 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by AdamantineFist - 04-09-2009, 01:13 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Ayem - 04-09-2009, 03:12 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-09-2009, 03:18 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Ayem - 04-09-2009, 03:32 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Benjamin - 04-09-2009, 04:15 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by sean24 - 04-09-2009, 04:37 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Eppy - 04-09-2009, 10:50 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Friday - 04-09-2009, 11:20 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-09-2009, 11:22 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 04-09-2009, 04:11 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by farmerman - 04-09-2009, 09:52 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Sand-Viper - 04-09-2009, 10:21 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Friday - 04-09-2009, 10:28 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by farmerman - 04-09-2009, 11:06 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Friday - 04-10-2009, 04:57 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-10-2009, 05:18 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Marburg - 04-10-2009, 05:25 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-10-2009, 05:27 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by farmerman - 04-10-2009, 05:41 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Marburg - 04-10-2009, 05:42 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by bluntpencil2001 - 04-10-2009, 09:59 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Markam - 04-10-2009, 10:13 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by farmerman - 04-10-2009, 10:33 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by BaconSoda - 04-11-2009, 01:28 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Drake - 04-11-2009, 01:48 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by fpsdoug - 04-11-2009, 01:56 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Unseelie - 05-01-2009, 04:56 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by pbrione - 05-05-2009, 12:56 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Capt. Henry Morgan - 07-18-2009, 12:38 AM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by reavengitair - 07-19-2009, 12:31 PM
Developments of the Bretonian Region - by Weedalot - 07-19-2009, 01:26 PM

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