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The Order of the Lion
Offline Hawkwings
05-18-2009, 08:59 PM,
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' Wrote:In theory, they are a powerful faction. but in practice, they have no true central government, and have various kinks and branches in the chain of command. Also, to your first comment. you say that Freelancer lore trumps in-game actions. However, it is the in-game actions that shape the freelancer world. they need each other. without in game actions, lore has no meaning. without lore, the in game actions would be useless and forgotten.the third and 2nd comments i will not answer. 2nd comment seems like a repeat of the first, and third seems to be between you and zig

Yes, in-game actions shape lore. However, the effect is not immediate. If every Corsair, including the factions, started RPing like they were a bunch of squabbling and disorganized pirates, then yes, the written lore in rumors and infocards would start to change. But that stuff doesn't happen immediately. The In-RP explanation would be that *some* Corsairs are disorganized, but there is a central organization represented by the NPCs.


' Wrote:It's my firm belief that our "little pipsqueak squadron" is capable of facing the Corsairs. That is, both in terms of the Corsair player base and in terms of the abstract Corsair Empire.

Then you are sadly mistaken. There is no way that small a group can take out that big a group. Even if you were invincible and never got hit in battle, there would still be no way. It's like asking a modern special forces team with the appropriate knowledge and skills to take out the roman empire at the height of its power. The scale is simply too wide. You'd die of old age first. Scale down your goals.

Quote:My arguments as to that can be found a page or two back. I've always been of the opinion that the (in-roleplay) actions of the players representing NPC factions influence said factions to a certain degree, right down to the purely theoretical parts. The Corsairs cannot organize to attack Bretonia and would not organize to attack Bretonia.

You are correct in that player actions do change lore. However, this happens gradually, and by Igiss decree. If he says that Corsairs fracture and splinter apart, then it happens, and is reflected in the infocards. Not before.

Quote:The Corsairs are vulnerable, and the Order of the Lion is trained and equipped to exploit those vulnerabilities. If the Corsairs launched an attack against Bretonia, the Empire would only become even more vulnerable and even more likely to break apart at the seams. As the Order operates far away from Bretonia and politically separately to a large degree, launching a revenge operation against Bretonia, beyond not being feasible, wouldn't even make sense - that'd be like Saladin invading England during the historical Third Crusade.

Hmm... citizens of a country attack your country, equipped with military hardware from that other country. And they say that they're only loosely affiliated. OK then, given those pre-conditions, what would the logical reprise be? Well, first, I would figure out where these groups are being supplied from. Then I would destroy their supply bases. Guess where the supplies are coming from? And besides, the Corsairs already don't like Bretonia. It doesn't take much to push them over the edge and into invasion and nuke mode.

Quote:Zoners own exactly one system - Omicron-74. That's it. Omicron Theta is unclaimed space. Any such base would be well-hidden and even better-protected, namely by the bulk of the crusade's forces.

If you want to stay hidden, don't have a bunch of patrols around your base, and make it look like a rock.

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The Order of the Lion - by Zig - 05-17-2009, 10:33 AM
The Order of the Lion - by Darkflight - 05-17-2009, 12:07 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Zig - 05-17-2009, 12:56 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Koolmo - 05-17-2009, 01:02 PM
The Order of the Lion - by NerdRage - 05-17-2009, 01:09 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Linkus - 05-17-2009, 01:09 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Zig - 05-17-2009, 01:15 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Linkus - 05-17-2009, 03:40 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Zelot - 05-17-2009, 05:45 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Zig - 05-17-2009, 05:49 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Dusty Lens - 05-17-2009, 05:53 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Zelot - 05-17-2009, 05:55 PM
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The Order of the Lion - by BaconSoda - 05-17-2009, 07:33 PM
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The Order of the Lion - by Athenian - 05-17-2009, 07:47 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Laowai - 05-17-2009, 07:52 PM
The Order of the Lion - by MarvinCZ - 05-17-2009, 08:06 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Zig - 05-17-2009, 08:19 PM
The Order of the Lion - by globalplayer-svk - 05-17-2009, 08:26 PM
The Order of the Lion - by Darkflight - 05-17-2009, 08:30 PM
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The Order of the Lion - by globalplayer-svk - 05-18-2009, 10:39 PM
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The Order of the Lion - by Reverend Del - 05-19-2009, 12:35 AM
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The Order of the Lion - by bluntpencil2001 - 05-19-2009, 03:44 AM
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