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The Order of the Lion
Offline Hawkwings
05-18-2009, 09:58 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-18-2009, 09:59 PM by Hawkwings.)
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Quote:Well, um, that's exactly what I see happening, isn't it? Whether intentionally or unintentionally, Corsair roleplay makes the Corsairs appear to be a bunch of squabbling and disorganized pirates. Sure seems that way.

But none of that is reflected in the official Corsair NPC faction information, given by infocards and rumors. When, and only when, those change, is the Corsair NPC faction going to change. You can't base a judgement of an entire NPC faction on the actions of players.

Regarding the Kusari vs Bretonia war thing, as I understood, [KNF] used to win a lot against BAF|, which is why the KNF NPC faction now has a presence in Leeds, and why the game story is the way it is. Next mod update, I expect things will develop further.

And yeah, it does take a whole mod update to change a faction's standing. Unless the admins decide to do it within one version's lifetime, of course.


Quote:It's a lofty goal, and we never assumed we're necessarily going to succeed at it. We plan to begin by chipping away at the Corsair Empire's outer defenses, then gradually work our way up, in collaboration with those Corsair players that have established quality roleplay. Our OORP relations to the official factions, which don't necessarily come under the above heading, obviously aren't the greatest right now. It remains to be seen how their stance towards us will develop. Wait and see, I suppose. However, is an assault against the Corsairs viable at this point and time? I still believe so, yes.

Just how many combat pilots do you envision this faction to have? A dozen? A hundred? A thousand? If you have a dozen or a hundred, you're not going to make a dent in the Corsairs within your lifetime. Anything over a thousand, and your supply lines become vulnerable. It's foolish to think that in-rp, your freighters would not get raided by Corsair pirates, or that your best pilots are significantly better than their best pilots.


Quote:Well, Igiss isn't the most talkative guy. I doubt he's ever actually made a statement to that effect, so this is all idle speculation.

Irrelevant. My point still stands, story stuff changes when Igiss says it does.


Quote:If the Corsairs were to plan and actually manage launch a force sufficiently large to pose a threat to Bretonia, the Crusaders would A) harass this force all the way to New London and B) take advantage of most of the Corsair warfleet's absence to strike at Corsair homespace with even greater efficiency. Oh, and so would every other enemy the Corsair Empire has, of which there's a diverse assortment. Logical consequences.

There's things called reserves, you know, that are pulled into active duty for home defense when battleships sally out to war. And yes, you can go ahead and harass the battlefleet all the way to Cambridge, but that's all you'll be able to accomplish. Bretonia is not Russia and the Corsairs are not Napoleon's Grande Armee. Again, reference the size of your group. If you've only got a dozen pilots, they might sacrifice three squadrons of fighters to keep you all busy, and then go on their merry way. If you bring out all hundred or thousand combat pilots, then, well, what an excellent opportunity to either attack your bases, or simply bring their fleet to bear on you and wipe you out, since you're presenting such a nice target. Whatever you propose to do, the Corsairs (NPCs) can do better, because they are larger and have more resources. By virtue of being larger, they present a bigger target, yes, but it doesn't matter how big a target you are if the enemy can't hurt you.

Really, the dilemma you face here is a problem that all militant guerrilla groups face. Too small and you can't accomplish much. Too big, and you draw too much attention and get stomped flat. There is simply no getting around this, unless you change the basis of your faction's idea.

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