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The Order of the Lion
Offline Athenian
05-19-2009, 12:05 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-19-2009, 12:09 AM by Athenian.)
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In case people didn't grasp my attempt at a role-play response to this, I don't think it's unreasonable for a handful of arrogant, upper-class Brets to actively seek to pursue a quasi-religious vendetta against the organisation that has been such a thorn in the side of Bretonia and its interests for such a long time. Now I say that as someone who has enjoyed playing in and around Bretonia (In the QCRF when it often felt like I was the only person flying around). Corsairs (characters that is) are a real nuisance for the Bretonians - they pick off traders, they make forays into Camrbidge and New London. But worse than all of this, they are disgusting Hispanic types. They enjoy Mediterranean cuisine. They call each other "hermano". They lack the social graces.

If it weren't for the Corsairs, Bretonia would be a very, very boring place.

And it was too, for a long time. Despite what you might say or think about Bretonia's other enemies, the truth is that the Corsairs are the most active and largest opponent in terms of playerbase. It's one thing to base assumptions on the "lore" of the game, but there have to be opportunities within the game for imaginative play to encourage player interaction. If the game doesn't already support such a group as this one, then the question is, Is it reasonable to accomodate it?

I personally think this accusation of being a PvP clan is at least a little premature, considering I've only seen one of these ships in-game so far. (A starflier, that was shot up by a loller in NY). But some players necessarily feel uncomfortable about having yet another opponent to carry out attacks against them in their home-world. So do we all. Camping other player's bases, seeking to eliminate as many of them as possible - is a realistic concern, as it has the potential to ruin the game play significantly. But it does happen. To us all. And sometimes it stinks. And other times it is just plain pathetic. And other times, it is perfectly okay, because that is the way it goes sometimes.

As to the blue message thing: The blue message thing was a consequence of a change in the forum and game to stop people pretending they had a rp justification for attacking all and sundry. When bounty hunters such as M&S posted those blue messages, they were observing server rules to avoid sanctions. I think some people have taken this as "bragging". Trust me, it is an aspect of the game that tires me. As to treating someone based on their past? Like it or not, we are all here to play together. If long term players can't at least be civil to each other on the forums, then what manner of model is this presenting to new players?

Has the game not improved in any respect? And have players who have invested such a long time in the game still such a distrust of each other. This is supposed to be a fun hobby. But a lot of the feedback here just strikes me as too harsh.

I find the suggestion that people "make" factions so they can kill Corsair players a little paranoid and, honestly, a small bit offensive. I say a small bit because people should know better at this stage. A lot of players have many characters in many different factions. Is it a coincidence that some players gravitate towards Corsair/KNF and others towards...well all the factions that surround the Corsairs? (although "are in danger of being overrun by" might be more appropriate than "surround" depending on your perspective). It's a preference based on ships and style of play, rather than anything personal. (I hope)

If there are genuine concerns, can I make a suggestion? Let these guys have a chance. That's all. If needs be, perhaps they could start from Douglas Station and begin their crusade in Omega 5 or 3 - perhaps re-supplying from a repair ship or stationary gunboat. I don't think there is any harm in allowing people at least try new things. If a similar Corsair faction was established I might feel similarly worried. But the insults here are prejudiced. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Some other random brain-farts: the BAF wasn't always the massive fleet it now is. And to be honest, it looked like it was in need of trimming for some time. People will stay with factions so long as there is something to do. And a enemy at your door is a sure-fire way to encourage activity. Whether or not it's the type of activity you actually want is a different matter.

A crusade against the Mollies doesn't make sense, from a cultural point of view, the Mollies are effectively cousins to the Bretonians. A ceasefire between them was in effect for a long time. Sure, they might be a growing threat, but they speak the same lingo and their demands are at least "reasonable."

Just because someone was a tool before doesn't mean they are going to be a tool always. I can think of some exceptions. But life is too short to waste time playing a hobby that causes such bad feeling.

Any errors in this rant are my own.




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