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All's fair in love and war
Offline Xoria
05-25-2009, 03:57 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-25-2009, 06:28 PM by Xoria.)
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Probably a year ago the Lane Hackers were fighting some LSF in Texas when the LSF managed to draw us over to the Mississippi. The 4.84 stationary battleships could destroy a fighter before you knew you were under fire without any problems, as I discovered. Did we accuse the LSF of cowardice or a lack of fairplay? No, of course not. I admired them for being smart enough to fool us, we berated ourselves for being dumb enough to fall for it, and it hasn't worked against us again. Mjolnir in particular chewed me out for letting that happen. I bet he still remembers.

There is nothing unfair about it, and calling people cowards for doing it is ridiculous flaming.

I expect to next see threads claiming
- that it's unfair for fighters to draw gunboats or capital ships into asteroid fields during a fight,
- or that it's unfair for fighters to cross the axis of a capital ship to evade its fire,
- or that it's unfair for capital ships to draw fighters into explosive gas pocket fields,
- or that it's unfair for some people to use their ability to type while PVPing to better coordinate tactics and targets against those who cannot multitask,
- or that it's unfair for some to use skype or teamspeak in combat against those who don't have such access.
- or that it's unfair to lure someone into a guard system that is friendly to you while fighting them
- and the list could go on and on and on

All of these are just as legitimately "unfair" as attempting to draw an opponent towards a stationary battleship, when the opponent is fully capable of refusing to fall for the tactic. The selective definition of "unfairness" being asked for in this thread is just as equally subjective, one-sided, selfish, and unreasonable as the rest of those. If you insist on enforcing one through any means, you'd better believe that eventually you'll have all of them crammed down your throat.

In fact, why isn't it unfair for Zapp to fight anyone, when his skills obviously outmatch so many people? Soon there will be a call for a rule prohibiting more greatly skilled PVPers from attacking less skilled PVPers, and the establishment of a ranking system for every player so you know whom you can and cannot fairly fight. Boxing and wrestling matches are divided by weight class, and doing the same for PVP ability could be equivalent. Or we could establish a handicapping system, so that people with better aim have to submit to a certain amount of "free hits" from people with worse aim to make the fight "fair". Or perhaps we should place a limit on every player's server time so that it's harder for some to get better at PVP than others. I'm sure that many of the people you've blown up in your PVP sprees have thought your ability to do so was unfair, Zapp. Maybe we should give as much credence to their distress as you want us to give to yours. In fact, it could just as reasonably be argued that your Mercenary or BHG hunting any of my characters for a bounty is unfair and abusive since your PVP ability so far exceeds mine. If it's unfair for my fighter to be hunted by a capital ship then it must be unfair for my fighter to be hunted by your fighter, since your fighter could kill me faster and more easily than any cap could. (I love fighting caps with fighters, btw, it's just too easy) As a matter of fact, the entire Mandalorian faction ought to be prohibited from collecting bounties at all, since it's unfair for a team of people dedicated to PVP to hunt those who don't have that advantage. Just let me know when you want to -really- talk about fairness when you aren't the only beneficiary.

I expect anyone to use every tactical advantage to its best effect, including "terrain" whether it's asteroid fields, explosive gas pockets, radiation zones, NPCs, or stationary bases or battleships, just like I expect people to use weapon grouping, group communication, practiced aim, teamwork, and honed skills. None of them are unfair, or all of them are.

We have now reached the point with the server rules where every single PVP encounter on this server is potentially sanctionable, depending on the screenshots submitted, but apparently that's not enough (don't doubt me, I could get every single PVP I'm in sanctioned one way or another by taking the right screenshot). Now let's accuse the ones that we don't report of being the unfair result of cowardly tactics? No thanks.

"Unfairness" is a natural part of life, and attempting to add layer after layer of "rules" of any sort only results in more unfairness than you started with, along with the endless bickering and bad feelings that accompany all of the subjective accusations and judgments.

I play by very simple rules:
I do my best to win. Bad for the other guy.
If I can't win, I lose and the other guy wins. Good for him.
I don't complain about the other guy's tactics. I beat them, or learn to beat them, or just decide to play with someone else if I can't beat them and it's no fun for me.
I win or lose, but either way I shut up about it and don't go beating others over the head with the results.

Those are rules that will guarantee a better server.
Tossing accusations of "unfairness" around and trying to restrict other people's behavior through subjective judgmentalism will not.

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Messages In This Thread
All's fair in love and war - by Zapp - 05-25-2009, 04:13 AM
All's fair in love and war - by Zelot - 05-25-2009, 04:20 AM
All's fair in love and war - by Sonja - 05-25-2009, 04:32 AM
All's fair in love and war - by Zelot - 05-25-2009, 04:33 AM
All's fair in love and war - by Sonja - 05-25-2009, 04:36 AM
All's fair in love and war - by Blighter - 05-25-2009, 04:37 AM
All's fair in love and war - by casero - 05-25-2009, 04:52 AM
All's fair in love and war - by Zapp - 05-25-2009, 05:07 AM
All's fair in love and war - by Markam - 05-25-2009, 02:14 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Athenian - 05-25-2009, 02:20 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Dieter Schprokets - 05-25-2009, 03:00 PM
All's fair in love and war - by casero - 05-25-2009, 03:03 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Xoria - 05-25-2009, 03:57 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Athenian - 05-25-2009, 04:16 PM
All's fair in love and war - by casero - 05-25-2009, 04:17 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Zelot - 05-25-2009, 04:48 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Dieter Schprokets - 05-25-2009, 05:00 PM
All's fair in love and war - by kingvaillant - 05-25-2009, 05:07 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Athenian - 05-25-2009, 05:07 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Zelot - 05-25-2009, 05:12 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Athenian - 05-25-2009, 05:20 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Zelot - 05-25-2009, 05:28 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Athenian - 05-25-2009, 05:39 PM
All's fair in love and war - by teschy - 05-25-2009, 05:45 PM
All's fair in love and war - by casero - 05-25-2009, 05:49 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Dieter Schprokets - 05-25-2009, 05:56 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Markam - 05-25-2009, 06:22 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Zelot - 05-25-2009, 06:42 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Benjamin - 05-25-2009, 07:31 PM
All's fair in love and war - by guitarguy - 05-25-2009, 07:39 PM
All's fair in love and war - by MB52 - 05-25-2009, 08:05 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Dieter Schprokets - 05-25-2009, 08:09 PM
All's fair in love and war - by Zapp - 05-25-2009, 08:47 PM
All's fair in love and war - by LoTeK_ - 05-26-2009, 02:18 AM
All's fair in love and war - by Zapp - 05-26-2009, 04:03 AM

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